Bullseye Load

[dmsc357]

I want to try Bullseye Powder in a 45ACP behind a 185grn LSWC for bullseye target shooting at 25 yards and then at 50 yards. Also repeat data for a 200grn LSWC. Can someone out there give me some a good starting loads for these two bullets. Also any comments on range of loads versus grouping with Bullseye.

Been using 231 but to me it seems to be too sensitive to charging accuracy.

Thanks DMSC357

 

[TonyT]

I have not used Bullseye for several years in 45 ACP but the Alliant website does have data. For bulseye pistol loads I use 3.8 gr. HS-700X, Rem LP, 185 gr. LSWC at ca. 715 fps for 25 yards and 3.8 gr. VV N-310, WLP behind the same bullet for ca 790 fps at 50 ards. Base to shoulder of 0.935"

 

[Pete D.]

Load

The classic Bullseye load is 4.0 grains of Bullseye powder under a 200 grain LSWC.
A variation of this is the 185 grain bullet pushed by 4.5 grains of Bullseye.
Personally, I use the 200 grain load above for the 25 yard targets. For the 50 yard precision targets I use Remington's very nice 185 grain jacketed semiwadutter and 4.9 grains of Bullseye.
I am told that High Master shooter David Lange shoots the Remington bullet over 4.5 grains of Bullseye for both 25 and 50 yard targets.
Lange's last match resulted in a .45 stage that was 870-41x out of a possible 900 points. So..the load works.
Pete

 

[dmsc357]

Thanks Pete D. Since I have a bad elbow and might want to limit recoil can you comment on how low I could go I could go with Bullseye behind 185 and 200 grn LSWC's and still get decent groups at 25 and 50 yds. (I do not do much NRA competition, just a dedicated informal group of freinds at our club. One elderly guy said 3.6 grns Bull under a 185 but that guy is a little forgetful so don't know if that is risky or not but he seems get groups. Others load 231 and WST but neither really lock in for me. I have a vague feeling that the faster burn rate of Bull might give better results ).

Tony T: thanks for your response. However must say that could not find good min and max data on Alliant site for a 185 LSWC and think only for 185grn Speer GDHP. Hodgdon has an excellent site but of course they don't sell Bull.

dmsc357

 

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I haven't used a 185g pill, but use 4.9g of Bullseye behind 230g FMJ, 230g XTP, and 250g LRFP! I tried the same at 4.0g, and my heavy recoil spring in my 1949 1911A1 Gov. wont cycle them, and recoil isn't real bad, less then .357 Mag from a revolver.

 

[paw080]

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: I want to try Bullseye Powder in a 45ACP behind a 185grn LSWC for
bullseye target shooting at 25 yards and then at 50 yards. Also repeat data
for a 200grn LSWC. Can someone out there give me some a good starting
loads for these two bullets. Also any comments on range of loads versus
grouping with Bullseye.
Been using 231 but to me it seems to be too sensitive to charging accuracy.

Thanks DMSC357

Hi DMS, For 25yd Timed and Rapid fire strings I use a very light load that is

X-ring accurate and also runs flawlessly in my 70 series MK IV Gold Cup. The

load is Dardas H&G 68(200gr), 3.2 gr of Bullseye powder and a .469" taper crimp.

I use Tula and CCI primers, I found no difference in primer performance. For the

50 yd line I use a Dardas H&G 130(185gr) and 3.6 or 3.7 gr Bullseye powder

with a .467" taper crimp; this yields 10 ring accuracy(My GC will only group 2-1/8" at 50yds.).

My loads and crimps may or may not work in your pistol; but then you probably

expect that. Good luck and have fun testing loads for Bullseye competition.

Tony

 

[dmsc357]

Thanks PAW080 and Pete D. for you inputs. PAW080 gives me a good min load for Bullseye target and Pete D. gives me about the max I would want to go, both for respective 185 and 200 bullets.

I was a little concerned when an old timer gave me a number like 3.6 grns of Bull and even as low as 3.3 grn. Low number of 3.2 by PAW080 makes me feel better that I probably won't get anything stuck in the barrel!

Find PAW080's tighter taper crimps of .467 and .469 interesting as I had been using .472. Suspect that your crimps are more appropriate as they probably allow the pressure to build up a little more which might be advantagous at the light loads. Inciently PAW what # spring do you have in the Gold Cup. I also fire a Gold Cup National Match and it will eat about anythind, even bulged cases I turned out when I first started loading. Other 45 is a new Springfield Range Officer that I had tuned up. It is probably the best buy there is for the money. However It doesn't like carelessly made hand loads (bulges and too much exposed base) and caused me to clean up my loading act (all for the better). Had the Springfield RO worked on and it now pulls as nicely as the accurized Gold Cup. Definitly better than the much touted shelf Kimber ACPs. Great balance on both my guns especially considering both with rail mounted 1" tube red dots.

Anyway I started to digress there. Want to thank everyone for the input. It was most helpful to a old time Ohio 12ga wing shooter that relocated to Western PA where pheasents are practically non existent and converted to handgun shooting a couple years ago.. Lots of turkey though but only an eternal optomist would go there with a shotgun if he were really hungry.

Thanks Again
DMSC357

 

[Pete D.]

Note

That "may not run in your gun" disclaimer is worthwhile. I have tried loads as noted - down at 3.2, 3.4, etc. - in my GC and, despite changes in the recoil spring to as low as 8lbs, they will not run my gun.

Pete

 

[dmsc357]

Ref. Pete D.

Understand "may not run in your gun". Have had recoil failures at light loads of WST and #8 spring. The real danger is bullet getting stuck so when testing such extremes I go with a single in the mag and after firing double check barel with a small dia. calibated dowel.

Ref.PAW080
Would still like to hear from you regards # spring you use in Gold Cup (or other 1911 as GC slides are real slick) for 3.2 and 3.7 loads of Bull.
DMSC357