vietnam1947
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I have been asked to get into BullysEye shooting, and need a 22 pistol for that. Looking for any suggestions. I have heard that the Smith & Wesson 41, and Ruger are a good choice, Thanks, Fred
BullsEye Pistol 22 Wanted
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krs
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Forget it.. I'd have deleted, but delete seems not to be an option.
vietnam1947
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It looks nice, I am a Right hand shooter, old and a shakey hand, will be getting a ultradot red dot scope to mount on the pistol I get.
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Domesticaly, the choices are pretty much the Ruger, High Standard, and Mdl 41, or 46. European mfgs make suitable ones also.
My suggestion would be to attend a Bullseye Match, have a look around and ask questions. Gunnies are most always more than willing to show off their toys.
It might be awkward to try out a couple though. Prematch ,the Line and Block Officers would be setting up the range. Post match, they'd be tidying up. No handling weapons while personnel are downrange.
Formal competition in any sport can get kinda expensive.
Its demanding, mentally draining, and fun.
salty
My suggestion would be to attend a Bullseye Match, have a look around and ask questions. Gunnies are most always more than willing to show off their toys.
It might be awkward to try out a couple though. Prematch ,the Line and Block Officers would be setting up the range. Post match, they'd be tidying up. No handling weapons while personnel are downrange.
Formal competition in any sport can get kinda expensive.
Its demanding, mentally draining, and fun.
salty
vietnam1947
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Salty, the mdl 41 from looking at other sites apears to be the choicee, but Rugers either mare II or Mark III are said to be good also except for they need a triger job to shoot better.
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I don't know about Mk2 or 3. Mine is a Mk1, bull barrel. Built by Jim Clark, Sr. back when the earth was flat.
Nor do I know about the dot sights or how they are mounted on the various 22s.
I have a Mdl 41 with a dot sight on it. My Number 2 wayward son absconded with several years ago when I could no longer hold the additional weight stationary. Rotator surgery X3 will do bad things to one handed shooting.
Again, I'd suggest attending a match and looking at what is available.
Sorry I haven't been more help.
Nor do I know about the dot sights or how they are mounted on the various 22s.
I have a Mdl 41 with a dot sight on it. My Number 2 wayward son absconded with several years ago when I could no longer hold the additional weight stationary. Rotator surgery X3 will do bad things to one handed shooting.
Again, I'd suggest attending a match and looking at what is available.
Sorry I haven't been more help.
vietnam1947
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:banghead:Salty any help or suggestions are great,I borke my left wrist in 5 places andnow have a steel plat, no shooting with that hand. I like the S&W 41 but the price is up there.
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vietnam1947
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Now that is really a Nice looking Piece, Thanks, Fred
testar77
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I shoot BE and my .22 is a Ruger MkII. I shoot just shy of Master scores, and I don't think the gun is holding me back yet. The best part is that it is reasonable priced. Mine is the Government Target model 6 7/8" Slabside Bull barrel. Now granted I have done a few things to it, Springs, Clark Trigger, some internal polishing, etc.
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I've compared the S&W model 41 to my Ruger Mark III.
The Ruger Mark III has more than 15,000 rounds thru it, so the trigger is comparable, but it lacks the trigger stop adjustment of the Smith.
Nevertheless, all things being equal, and in my particular hands, with my skill level, I don't experience a whole lot of real world accuracy difference between the two handguns.
For a point of reference, my skills are not up to Camp Perry standards, but they are good enough to catch the eye of the average shooter.
IMHO, though, where the Smith really begins to shine, is in the hands of a top grade shooter.
If you are not there yet, save your money and practice.
The Ruger Mark III has more than 15,000 rounds thru it, so the trigger is comparable, but it lacks the trigger stop adjustment of the Smith.
Nevertheless, all things being equal, and in my particular hands, with my skill level, I don't experience a whole lot of real world accuracy difference between the two handguns.
For a point of reference, my skills are not up to Camp Perry standards, but they are good enough to catch the eye of the average shooter.
IMHO, though, where the Smith really begins to shine, is in the hands of a top grade shooter.
If you are not there yet, save your money and practice.
If you're serious might as well get a serious firearm too. At the minimum a benelli but a Pardini or Morini would be better.
Go here: http://www.targettalk.org/index.php
and you'll fer more experienced folks helping you.
Go here: http://www.targettalk.org/index.php
and you'll fer more experienced folks helping you.
Comanche180
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I take my shooting but not myself seriously. I shoot winter indoor bullseye, 22lr at 50 feet. Some of the guys have Uniques & S&W 41s and they shoot in the mid 800s. I bring a Browning Buckmark with a red dot and a Ruger MkII with iron sights. I shoot about the same with either. For my scores, the limiting factor is not the guns or the ammo. What does that leave? I am happy with my guns, both have 5.5 inch bull barrels, both have good triggers although not adjustable. My scores are improving. By the time my scores are limited by my guns I won't be able to see that far. I'm enjoying myself, what more do I want?
I take my shooting but not myself seriously. I shoot winter indoor bullseye, 22lr at 50 feet. Some of the guys have Uniques & S&W 41s and they shoot in the mid 800s. I bring a Browning Buckmark with a red dot and a Ruger MkII with iron sights. I shoot about the same with either. For my scores, the limiting factor is not the guns or the ammo. What does that leave? I am happy with my guns, both have 5.5 inch bull barrels, both have good triggers although not adjustable. My scores are improving. By the time my scores are limited by my guns I won't be able to see that far. I'm enjoying myself, what more do I want?
I too prefer "bull" barrels. My Model 41 is one of the ones with the extendable sight (which I never use) and I also have a Ruger Mk I with my own trigger work. Off a rest, the S&W is slightly more accurate, but off hand I can shoot better with the Ruger. Both are more than accurate enough to take the hardware if I do my part. (I never do, darn it!)
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Here, Browning Buckmarks and Ruger MkII's are most common. I have a Ruger MkII .22/45 model, with a long bull barrel. A few folks have S&W 41's.
Local gunsmith who likes working on Rugers added an adjustable trigger stop to mine and adjusted the trigger pull to... 2 pounds, I think. It cost less than $50 for the work and whatever new parts he added.
The grip on the .22/45 model is too narrow for my hands, and you can't change the grip panels. But adjusting the trigger made a huge difference so the too-narrow grip doesn't matter much anymore.
Local gunsmith who likes working on Rugers added an adjustable trigger stop to mine and adjusted the trigger pull to... 2 pounds, I think. It cost less than $50 for the work and whatever new parts he added.
The grip on the .22/45 model is too narrow for my hands, and you can't change the grip panels. But adjusting the trigger made a huge difference so the too-narrow grip doesn't matter much anymore.
Okiecruffler
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I set this one up for bullseye, but for some still unknown reason I sold it one day. Still regretting that one.
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If you are not absolutely sure you will like bullseye shooting well enough to get an expensive gun, I would suggest a Ruger.
If you subsequently really get into bullseye, then you can spend the big $$ for a Model 41 or something else in that class, and you will still have the Ruger as a general goofing-off gun or a backup if something happens to your competition gun.
If you subsequently really get into bullseye, then you can spend the big $$ for a Model 41 or something else in that class, and you will still have the Ruger as a general goofing-off gun or a backup if something happens to your competition gun.
I shoot in a Bullseye league and the most popular gun is the Ruger MK series target versions, followed by Brownings and S&W's. There are a sprinkling of High Standard, along with Pardini's and Walthers at the high end.
Most guys with the Rugers have added the Volthane grips and have either had a trigger job done or used the drop in action parts.
I have a Browning Buckmark 5.5 Target. With this pistol there was no need to get a trigger job and it came with a top rail to mount a red dot or other target scope. I use a red dot sight and when the dot's in the center of the target as the gun goes off the bullet is in the X ring every time. Sounds easy doesn't it
if only it was so.
Most guys with the Rugers have added the Volthane grips and have either had a trigger job done or used the drop in action parts.
I have a Browning Buckmark 5.5 Target. With this pistol there was no need to get a trigger job and it came with a top rail to mount a red dot or other target scope. I use a red dot sight and when the dot's in the center of the target as the gun goes off the bullet is in the X ring every time. Sounds easy doesn't it
if only it was so.
krs
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Hammerbite is giving good advise.
I competed in bullseye from 1977 until early 1983. Also shot International 10 meter air pistol well enough to be invited to the US Olympic Team tryouts in 1979. 1980 was to be the first time air pistol and rifle were accepted as olympic sports.
During that time I used Hi Standard pistols for .22 and resisted the temptation to try to buy scores with "better" pistols. Although I did go for a Smith Model 52 for a while I stayed away from the then hot topic Walther dual caliber pistols, thank goodness.
I had a mentor who convinced me that guns don't make scores, shooters do, and that the mental aspects of the sport could overcome most other shooters who were stuck in insecurity about whether their equipment was good enough to win.
ALL of the pistols under discussion here are completely capable of winning matches. The question is and always will be, are you?
The Rugers provide the easiest way into the sport. You may not like it, you know.
I competed in bullseye from 1977 until early 1983. Also shot International 10 meter air pistol well enough to be invited to the US Olympic Team tryouts in 1979. 1980 was to be the first time air pistol and rifle were accepted as olympic sports.
During that time I used Hi Standard pistols for .22 and resisted the temptation to try to buy scores with "better" pistols. Although I did go for a Smith Model 52 for a while I stayed away from the then hot topic Walther dual caliber pistols, thank goodness.
I had a mentor who convinced me that guns don't make scores, shooters do, and that the mental aspects of the sport could overcome most other shooters who were stuck in insecurity about whether their equipment was good enough to win.
ALL of the pistols under discussion here are completely capable of winning matches. The question is and always will be, are you?
The Rugers provide the easiest way into the sport. You may not like it, you know.
vietnam1947
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OK, I get the picture, I believe I will attend a few matches,talk more to other shooters, see what I can afford, and Cork on holding a 3 lb weight during comercials on TV to build up better arm strength.
Thanks for all the info and you all have been great. Thanks again, Fred
Thanks for all the info and you all have been great. Thanks again, Fred
vietnam1947
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Thanks , I went down a picked up a S & W 41 and it does shoot very well out of the Box also bought a lot of mmow to test throught the barres to see which shoots best. Monuted a Bushnell Throphy red/green dot and I was really luchy it was sighted in at 25 yards. I thanked God and knocked on wood. I thank every one for their suggestion, Fred
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