Bunker Bob
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armoredman
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Hmm, buried, like some people talk about?
ShunZu
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Meanwhile, CA released 8 convicted child molesters, 23 murderers and 35 crack dealers. But at least they've got that mean, nasty 73 year old man under 1 mill bond and off the street.
tinygnat219
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Well, the guy shouldn't have had guns since he's a convicted felon. If he wanted his rights restored, he should have considered VT.
Sorry, I don't see a problem with having this guy arrested.
Sorry, I don't see a problem with having this guy arrested.
ShunZu
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Me either. Was just hinting that CA likes to keep the prison door revolving.
ArfinGreebly
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Felon?
So, we got a "felon" minding his own business, and we're just terrified of him.
They let this guy out among the general civilian population, did they not? And he has hurt no one, yes? But "he's a BAD person" so we have to take pro-active action and act pro-actively and do something about it.
They trusted him among the general population. The only reason to "restrict" his ownership of firearms is to interfere with ownership by law-abiding folk. Yup. The whole point is the make you and me prove we are not him. Add barriers and increase cost and effort.
You will notice they're not actually surprised that he has the guns. They're just putting him in jail about it.
Why aren't they surprised?
Duh?
They let him out among the general civilian population. I may have said that before. Why would they let him out? Because . . . well, . . . because he's not actually dangerous.
I mean, really, you wouldn't let dangerous people out of prison. If you did something like that -- especially as a matter of policy -- people would start to wonder if you'd lost your mind.
Or maybe people would begin to imagine that this just gives you a better excuse to implement draconian police-state-style laws controlling what the commoners do.
Nah. That couldn't be it.
So, we got a "felon" minding his own business, and we're just terrified of him.
They let this guy out among the general civilian population, did they not? And he has hurt no one, yes? But "he's a BAD person" so we have to take pro-active action and act pro-actively and do something about it.
They trusted him among the general population. The only reason to "restrict" his ownership of firearms is to interfere with ownership by law-abiding folk. Yup. The whole point is the make you and me prove we are not him. Add barriers and increase cost and effort.
You will notice they're not actually surprised that he has the guns. They're just putting him in jail about it.
Why aren't they surprised?
Duh?
They let him out among the general civilian population. I may have said that before. Why would they let him out? Because . . . well, . . . because he's not actually dangerous.
I mean, really, you wouldn't let dangerous people out of prison. If you did something like that -- especially as a matter of policy -- people would start to wonder if you'd lost your mind.
Or maybe people would begin to imagine that this just gives you a better excuse to implement draconian police-state-style laws controlling what the commoners do.
Nah. That couldn't be it.
Pigspitter
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I love the deal newsfolk make about one single hand grenade. Its not like he's got a small nuke.
jaholder1971
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A felon is a felon is a felon is a felon.
Some of you really think that these folks can change their lives and be productive citizens. The recidivism rate proves you wrong.
A convicted felon with a history of violent action against Law Enforcement officers illegally possessing firearms and explosives is not what I'd call minding his own business, sorry.
Some of you really think that these folks can change their lives and be productive citizens. The recidivism rate proves you wrong.
A convicted felon with a history of violent action against Law Enforcement officers illegally possessing firearms and explosives is not what I'd call minding his own business, sorry.
RonE
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Noone seems to be concerned about where he got the guns and how he got them. Noone seems to be concerned about the fact that you can generally shoot one gun at a time so what good are "lots" of guns going to do? Modoc County, California is somewhat remote. I used to own a lot of land in Modoc County. A million dollars bail is laughable, Bunker Bob done spent all his money on guns.
Wes Janson
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Innocent until proven guilty, anyone?
MachIVshooter
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No one is saying that a dangerous felon should be allowed to possess firearms. If they are still dangerous, then why are they free? That's the point we're trying to make here.
Every free man in society should be able to own firearms, because dangerous felons should not be free.
im more concerned about the description of his past... from looking at his pic i can just see it now...
officer: "sir please come out of the garage, we got a report of loud banging last night"
him: "screw you"
officer: "sir come out and put the michettte down"
him: "go to hell"
officers report states that he advanced menacingly in my direction with a weapon...
DA: felony assault on a LEO....
dont think it cant happen... former cop friend of mine once told me that his pen was the mightiest weapon he had... all he had to write on any report to justify action was "suspect reached for my gun"
officer: "sir please come out of the garage, we got a report of loud banging last night"
him: "screw you"
officer: "sir come out and put the michettte down"
him: "go to hell"
officers report states that he advanced menacingly in my direction with a weapon...
DA: felony assault on a LEO....
dont think it cant happen... former cop friend of mine once told me that his pen was the mightiest weapon he had... all he had to write on any report to justify action was "suspect reached for my gun"
Fast Frank
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I think a lot of people might be mis interpreting the guy's nickname...
"Bunker Bob" was a character in the movie "The Blues Brothers".
He owned "Bob's Country Bunker". This place specialized in both kinds of music- Country AND Western.
The band put on a great show there. They played the theme to "Rawhide" over and over...
"Bunker Bob" was a character in the movie "The Blues Brothers".
He owned "Bob's Country Bunker". This place specialized in both kinds of music- Country AND Western.
The band put on a great show there. They played the theme to "Rawhide" over and over...
ArfinGreebly
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Felon = Felon?
Really?
Absolutely?
I mean, if you read some of my earlier stuff, you will get a sense of where I stand on allowing violent offenders back into the general population, but your assertion . . . is broken.
You would be amazed at the things that are "felonies" in different states. There are certain, uh, toys, that are prohibited (the sale of them) in Texas. Felony.
There are certain bedroom antics that are still on the books as felonies in some places.
There are things you can do with a computer (not involving porn or harassment or stalking) that are counted as felonies. No violence involved.
There are things you can do with numbers on a balance sheet that are felonies.
There are offenses -- not involving alcohol -- behind the wheel that are felonies. Involving no malice, I might add.
And in some places, the simple ownership of a bit of metal or the machine to which it belongs is a felony. OWNERSHIP of a bit of metal, for God's sake.
All felonies are felonies are felonies?
Moreover, if I understand some of what I'm reading, whatever the LAW says -- regardless of constitutional compliance -- is the way it's gotta be.
So . . . I take my Aevile Blaque Raffle to California (which Raffle, I might add, is perfectly legal in all the states which adjoin California), and the local Shurf discovers Ah has dis Raffle, an' he 'rests me and tosses my butt in gaol.
'Cuz I'm a felon, you see. 'Cuz I OWN a bad thing.
An' de judge, he done hold de trial, and he do tell da jury what dey gotta do, and Ah gets found GILT-TY and Ah goes to gaol for choo years. 'Cuz Ah'm a felon, and Ah'm bad, 'cuz I done OWNED a bad thang.
And, as we all know, a felony is a felony is a felony.
And felons, why, they ain't human no more, so they don't gots no human rights, like self defense an' all, 'cuz they's bad and evil.
Y'know, I'm pretty sure Bunker Bob is several high-value cards short of a deck. But the way he sees it, things are fixin' to go South, and he feels he'd best be prepared.
He is wrong of course. Only a complete whack job would imagine that our society or our nation is in any kind of danger, or that there is any kind of impending disorder.
Such thoughts just aren't rational. The government will keep us safe. They always do.
I am both amazed and discouraged that there are so many members here who STILL believe that prohibiting ownership of a firearm has any impact on crime, other than to make more victims available for those who will not play by the rules.
* Sigh *
Ah, the hell with it. Let's just call EVERYONE a felon, except for those that we can label crazy, and then we don't have to let ANYONE have a gun.
There. Problem solved.
Truly?
Really?
Absolutely?
I mean, if you read some of my earlier stuff, you will get a sense of where I stand on allowing violent offenders back into the general population, but your assertion . . . is broken.
You would be amazed at the things that are "felonies" in different states. There are certain, uh, toys, that are prohibited (the sale of them) in Texas. Felony.
There are certain bedroom antics that are still on the books as felonies in some places.
There are things you can do with a computer (not involving porn or harassment or stalking) that are counted as felonies. No violence involved.
There are things you can do with numbers on a balance sheet that are felonies.
There are offenses -- not involving alcohol -- behind the wheel that are felonies. Involving no malice, I might add.
And in some places, the simple ownership of a bit of metal or the machine to which it belongs is a felony. OWNERSHIP of a bit of metal, for God's sake.
All felonies are felonies are felonies?
Moreover, if I understand some of what I'm reading, whatever the LAW says -- regardless of constitutional compliance -- is the way it's gotta be.
So . . . I take my Aevile Blaque Raffle to California (which Raffle, I might add, is perfectly legal in all the states which adjoin California), and the local Shurf discovers Ah has dis Raffle, an' he 'rests me and tosses my butt in gaol.
'Cuz I'm a felon, you see. 'Cuz I OWN a bad thing.
An' de judge, he done hold de trial, and he do tell da jury what dey gotta do, and Ah gets found GILT-TY and Ah goes to gaol for choo years. 'Cuz Ah'm a felon, and Ah'm bad, 'cuz I done OWNED a bad thang.
And, as we all know, a felony is a felony is a felony.
And felons, why, they ain't human no more, so they don't gots no human rights, like self defense an' all, 'cuz they's bad and evil.
Y'know, I'm pretty sure Bunker Bob is several high-value cards short of a deck. But the way he sees it, things are fixin' to go South, and he feels he'd best be prepared.
He is wrong of course. Only a complete whack job would imagine that our society or our nation is in any kind of danger, or that there is any kind of impending disorder.
Such thoughts just aren't rational. The government will keep us safe. They always do.
I am both amazed and discouraged that there are so many members here who STILL believe that prohibiting ownership of a firearm has any impact on crime, other than to make more victims available for those who will not play by the rules.
* Sigh *
Ah, the hell with it. Let's just call EVERYONE a felon, except for those that we can label crazy, and then we don't have to let ANYONE have a gun.
There. Problem solved.
MachIVshooter
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Arfin; you could have just let him run away with his tail between his legs; you didn't have to lob it off
Well said, sir.
Well said, sir.
Bazooka Joe71
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Some people just can comprehend this I guess. . .I'd say more, but I think the older, wiser Mr. Greebs summed it up pretty good.
PS. BTW, Arf, thanks for that. I'm still chuckling a bit.
PPS. Arf, I bet in a movie you could play the best hickerbilly ever.
"Deliverance" eat your heart out!
KirklandRdr
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In WA state, failing to transfer the title of a vehicle within 15 days after you buy it is a felony. You could buy a car from someone, have something happen where you get busy or forget to send in the title transfer, then before you know it, you are a felon and no more guns for you.
ArfinGreebly
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KirklandRdr!
Dude!
Welcome to The High Road.
And thanks for that singularly depressing piece of data.
Failure to register a car?
Well, yeah, of course. What kind of heinous criminal would try to duck car registration, huh? Horsewhip that SOB! Oughta be a law! (What? There is? Oh, sorry.)
Dude!
Welcome to The High Road.
And thanks for that singularly depressing piece of data.
Failure to register a car?
Well, yeah, of course. What kind of heinous criminal would try to duck car registration, huh? Horsewhip that SOB! Oughta be a law! (What? There is? Oh, sorry.)
Gunnerpalace
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Arfin let me guess
"You would be amazed at the things that are "felonies" in different states. There are certain, uh, toys, that are prohibited (the sale of them) in Texas. Felony.:
Oleg made a poster on that, comparing it to NYC laws.
There are things you can do with a computer (not involving porn or harassment or stalking) that are counted as felonies. No violence involved.
MP3 stuff right?
There are things you can do with numbers on a balance sheet that are felonies.: Fraud
And in some places, the simple ownership of a bit of metal or the machine to which it belongs is a felony. OWNERSHIP of a bit of metal, for God's sake."
An FA Sear
Those right?
"You would be amazed at the things that are "felonies" in different states. There are certain, uh, toys, that are prohibited (the sale of them) in Texas. Felony.:
Oleg made a poster on that, comparing it to NYC laws.
There are things you can do with a computer (not involving porn or harassment or stalking) that are counted as felonies. No violence involved.
MP3 stuff right?
There are things you can do with numbers on a balance sheet that are felonies.: Fraud
And in some places, the simple ownership of a bit of metal or the machine to which it belongs is a felony. OWNERSHIP of a bit of metal, for God's sake."
An FA Sear
Those right?
Titan6
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I don't think they are talking about the same Bob from the Blues Brothers. This Bob seems not so happy go lucky. I am pretty sure he understood that hand gernades are illegal.
Hand Grenades
I can still hear the echo of Chuck Schumer dissembling in Congressional hearings that stun grenades ("flash-bangs" in SWAT parlance for non-fragmenting hand grenades) used at Waco were distraction tools, little more than big firecrackers. Just like assault rifles become 'patrol rifles' in the hands of the police. Orwell would be right proud of this sort of double-speak and double-think. How delegated agents get more power than those they serve who originally delegated that authority to them is the hidden story of how free governments turn into totalitarian socialist sewer holes.
Under federal law a wick in a bottle of flammable liquid is a destructive device on a legal par with a military grenade. Or it could be an oil lamp.
Many if not all grenade reports in the media I've seen turned out to be dummy ordnance. We've also recently seen airsoft toys reported as being real guns.
One day everything most folks on this forum routinely enjoy will be made into felonies. A generation of feminized boys punished in school for even drawing firearms will likely be quite well socialized into accepting those chains.
I can still hear the echo of Chuck Schumer dissembling in Congressional hearings that stun grenades ("flash-bangs" in SWAT parlance for non-fragmenting hand grenades) used at Waco were distraction tools, little more than big firecrackers. Just like assault rifles become 'patrol rifles' in the hands of the police. Orwell would be right proud of this sort of double-speak and double-think. How delegated agents get more power than those they serve who originally delegated that authority to them is the hidden story of how free governments turn into totalitarian socialist sewer holes.
Under federal law a wick in a bottle of flammable liquid is a destructive device on a legal par with a military grenade. Or it could be an oil lamp.
Many if not all grenade reports in the media I've seen turned out to be dummy ordnance. We've also recently seen airsoft toys reported as being real guns.
One day everything most folks on this forum routinely enjoy will be made into felonies. A generation of feminized boys punished in school for even drawing firearms will likely be quite well socialized into accepting those chains.
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