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for a cheaper tube that never rusts try a 6 to 14 in dia pvc pipe with caps,cheaper undetectable and waterproof
Burial Tube
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jcwit
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Till you put something metal in it its undetectable, after that it is. Just what are you folks afraid of anyway, or is this just an excerise in excitement.
gbw
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What's a lot? It's impossible to know how many times it did turn out well, so that argument may not be too good. Second, none of that goes to the fact that the money actually was safer buried than in it would have been in many of the banks back then. That's why it wasn't irrational. If it gave them peace of mind to bury it, does that make it a bad idea? Not for me to say. My own guess is that some of it was never recovered simply because it was never really needed again. In hindsight the buriers were the ones with foresight back then. Seems likely they made other preparations as well.
As well, I never said anything about burying, just 'long term storage'. Personally I would not bury anything, as has been pointed out it is unreliable.
And you do gotta admit, these is very very strange times in which we is alivin'. If you predicted and then acted on 10% of the things we've seen recently, you are a very very rich man.
runrabbitrun
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I can't remember the range of the unit I was issued
in the military to sweep for mines was, but I'm sure
people could effectivly bury guns and not have them detected.
I won't go into detail how, other than to say
some of what's been proposed so far could do the trick.
in the military to sweep for mines was, but I'm sure
people could effectivly bury guns and not have them detected.
I won't go into detail how, other than to say
some of what's been proposed so far could do the trick.
winston smith
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Its harder to detect stainless steel, aluminium and plastic than ordinary steel.
Good thing the ATF is after Cav Arms, who's plastic AR 15 lowers are available at Brownell's.
Maybe they better ban all those makers of SS barrels.
And underground power lines.
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Good thing the ATF is after Cav Arms, who's plastic AR 15 lowers are available at Brownell's.
Maybe they better ban all those makers of SS barrels.
And underground power lines.
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rbernie
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Gang - this thread is about caching tips and techniques. I'm getting really tired of deleting the eggregious tinfoilhattery posts and obvious thread veers.
Either contribute to the OPs thread, or pass it by. Making off-topic comments is simply not nice, and I'm not likely going to react well to them for much longer.
Either contribute to the OPs thread, or pass it by. Making off-topic comments is simply not nice, and I'm not likely going to react well to them for much longer.
bigione
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If you have the option, bury them in a fence line. Steel posts and barbed wire confuse the metal detectors. A broken off stell post above the cache makes another decoy.
theotherwaldo
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The last place that I cached had a generous helping of logging cable, road-building debris, mining debris and tailings, bits of wrecked bridges, re-bar, and other detector distracters. Admittedly, I buried no guns, just supplies that I might need if I was caught out in bad conditions in a place that I visited often. Still, the tools, canned goods, and such would have made a good target - except for the scrap that littered the area.
I'm sure that you all know of similar places... .
I'm sure that you all know of similar places... .
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
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Decoy tubes, oh brother.
Another vote here for:
Only technique I'll mention is that, if you're gonna do it, it had better be waterproof, so use of a silicon gel to seal the end caps are in order, and some dessicant inside.
Another vote here for:
Only technique I'll mention is that, if you're gonna do it, it had better be waterproof, so use of a silicon gel to seal the end caps are in order, and some dessicant inside.
Keep in mind that a long tube buried vertically may be very hard to get back out of the ground, without digging really deep all around it.
I'm not paranoid enough (yet) to bury things, but I DO think about hiding things in the interior walls of my house. Guns, ammo, and gold/silver coins would be very easy to cover up with sheetrock, easy to recover too.
A small slot cut in the drywall behind a shelf or picture can turn the space between two wall studs into a GIANT piggybank for dropping gold coins or silver rounds into, I wouldn't bother with cash. Many thousands of rounds of boxed ammo can be stacked inside a wall. I'd seal them in plastic first. Same with rifles.
Pistols sealed in plastic bags can be stashed behind drywall too. Build a shelf between the studs, place the bagged pistol(s) with mags and ammo on the shelf, cover with drywall and paint. When you need it, smash the drywall with your elbow, and there it all is. A good way to hide a pistol & ammo in a closet or safe room.
I'm not paranoid enough (yet) to bury things, but I DO think about hiding things in the interior walls of my house. Guns, ammo, and gold/silver coins would be very easy to cover up with sheetrock, easy to recover too.
A small slot cut in the drywall behind a shelf or picture can turn the space between two wall studs into a GIANT piggybank for dropping gold coins or silver rounds into, I wouldn't bother with cash. Many thousands of rounds of boxed ammo can be stacked inside a wall. I'd seal them in plastic first. Same with rifles.
Pistols sealed in plastic bags can be stashed behind drywall too. Build a shelf between the studs, place the bagged pistol(s) with mags and ammo on the shelf, cover with drywall and paint. When you need it, smash the drywall with your elbow, and there it all is. A good way to hide a pistol & ammo in a closet or safe room.
Dark Skies
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Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow - silicon gel is probably a bad idea (by 1000% ) because they often use acetic acid in their curing .
Better - Sikaflex 221 sealant. It's used as both an adhesive and a sealant in the boating / auto industry. Best to smear it around the outside of the joint rather than the inside else you'll struggle to get the top off again.
) because they often use acetic acid in their curing .Better - Sikaflex 221 sealant. It's used as both an adhesive and a sealant in the boating / auto industry. Best to smear it around the outside of the joint rather than the inside else you'll struggle to get the top off again.
SquirrelNuts
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Ball bearings, washers, or other simple metal objects can be scattered around the property to throw off metal detectors. This has been done on civil war battlefields to keep collectors from doing some 2:00 AM searching.
FiREhAwk
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I have thought about buying some mosins or pre-obama priced sks's with gobs of cosmoline and some heavy plastic. I do not think pvc is necessary unless you want to disassemble or add other supplies with it. Vacuum seal the plastic with the rifle covered in cosmoline, maybe add some Silicate and double layer. Like has been said "when its time to bury them...." and I am young and semi-nomadic so it just seems like a cool idea, not very practical.
yakkingallover
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This is the first caching thread I have ever replied to even though I have always read them with great interest. My thoughts on a few things discussed in this thread are
1. To those who say if it is time to bury them it's time to dig them up, I agree except that if I am at home with my new wife and possibly the children we plan to have and someone came knocking I would hand over everything in the house before I jeopardized my families safety. Then I would re-claim my liberator from it's slumber and go get my guns back. 2. In addition to mil-surp rifles I would consider a cheap shotgun, with several types of shot for everything from small game hunting to defense and offense, keeping cost potentially under $200 for the hole setup.
3. A food saver is invaluable and just plain cool for stuff like this...
1. To those who say if it is time to bury them it's time to dig them up, I agree except that if I am at home with my new wife and possibly the children we plan to have and someone came knocking I would hand over everything in the house before I jeopardized my families safety. Then I would re-claim my liberator from it's slumber and go get my guns back. 2. In addition to mil-surp rifles I would consider a cheap shotgun, with several types of shot for everything from small game hunting to defense and offense, keeping cost potentially under $200 for the hole setup.
3. A food saver is invaluable and just plain cool for stuff like this...
ccsniper
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i was thinking of selling or trying to sell some single barreled shotguns stuffed in a pvc tube with a small fishing kit, first aid kit, and cleaning kit, maybe also a small knife that would be made for burial/survival. dont know if it woulda worked but i know someone woulda bought it. thought it woulda been a good boat, truck, camping kit. i might start a thread for it.
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