buying rifle 4473 question

[yongxingfreesty]

here is the situation

my friend and i are of legal age to buy and own a colt 6920. I spoke to the seller and he said he would give me a price shipped for the two.

I will be sending him a personal check for the two rifles and he would be sending my FFL the two rifles. my friend has never written a check in his life so he just gave me the money to send to him. I wrote the check in the amount of my rifle + his rifle.

I also told the seller that I would need the two rifles marked for two different people and we would both fill out a form 4473 at my FFL when I pick it up.

is this legal? can anyone give me any advice?

 

[WeedWhacker]

I know this doesn't answer your question, but why make life more difficult? Have your friend stop by the corner convenience store and spend fifty cents on a money order while you void the one check and write another just for your purchase amount.

 

[Regolith]

I think it may be legal. Since you're both filling out 4473's, the ATF shouldn't care how the dealer gets his money.

However, just because they shouldn't care, doesn't mean that they DON'T. My suggestion is to err on the side of caution. Have your friend either learn to write a check or use a money order.

 

[Quiet]

You bought two rifles and sent the seller money.

Seller ships the rifles to your FFL dealer.

You & your friend fill out paperwork with your FFL dealer. Each of you do your own forms.

Doesn't matter who paid for or how they got to your dealer. As soon as he/she gets them, you fill out the paperwork.

 

[yongxingfreesty]

i know he can get a money order, but he doesnt have time to do all this and just handed me the money to send to the seller. we were suppose to get this package deal 1 month ago, but was delayed because of school.

i've already wrote the check and sent it out. it wasnt two checks, but one payment for for the two rifles. i just want to be sure that this isnt a straw purchase as we are both allowed to buy and own this firearm. have no felonies or criminal background and will be filling out two 4473s for two different individuals.

included with the check is a letter i wrote to the seller explaining the situation. if it is okay, i guess he will mail the rifles and we will fill out both our form 4473s.

can anyone else chime in?

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Your friend is filling out the form at the dealer's shop and picking up his rifle, intending to keep his rifle. That's legal. Whose pocket the money comes from is irrelevant.

Besides, the check is going to the original seller. The dealer does not need to know about that. As long as the dealer gets his fee for the transfer, he should be ok.

 

[bogie]

Oh, fahchrissake...

Money is money - if you were paying cash, would you be worried when the guy put it all in the same cash drawer? Of course not... All that matters is that the actual purchaser of each rifle fill out his own 4473... It ain't that hard.

 

[hksw]

It sounds to me that the original poster (and his friend) is relatively new to firearms purchasing. Being a novice in that activity, I can understand his trepidation in performing an irregular act for a purchase and post the question to seek confirmation of legality.

 

[yongxingfreesty]

okie dokie, sounds good. i can now go about my day thanks to everyone on THR.

 

[Zundfolge]

If you go down by yourself and pick up both rifles, its a straw purchase, but if both of you go down and fill out separate 4473s you're fine.