Ca Assembly passes AB2235

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I just dropped my California State Bar membership. They doubled the fee and I'm never going back to Freaktopia.
So, money to spend on another paperless gun.
 
Do these guns even exist?

Maybe the legislature can make a law that says that worldwide oil supplies will double, without any more drilling or exploration, and that gas will be a buck a gallon.

What about time travel? That would be cool!
 
Stupid, Stupid Laws

I read and read about how these folks pass stupid laws, which they are, but what everyone doesn't stop to realize is......

These stupid lawmakers prime motivation is to get reelected. period.

They have to seem to be "DOING SOMETHING". That way, they can get on TV and get the sound bites and get reelected. Most of them don't know or don't care what they are passing if it will just get them a sound bite. This brings them to the attention of their voters. Gets them re elected..ad nauseum
 
every law passed here migrates to a state near you. if you don't believe this just a native from Colorado, Arizona, Oregon etc. etc. and let them tell you from experience.
Each and every law that passes here takes someones freedom away. to say the next one is the biggie is nieve. it is called gun control by attrician.
sorry about the spelling, don't rag
 
The great communist state of Californiacation. I hate it for you gun loving true red blooded Americans. Can't someone vote those morons out of office?
 
Matt King said:
What are the specifics of the "ammo ban" bill?

1) Bans the mail order or Internet sale of Handgun Ammunition

2) Handgun Ammunition sales are registered at the point of purchase

3) A new Handgun Ammunition vendor permit required

4) Handgun Ammunition vendor display security requirement

5) Handgun Ammunition sales at locations other than licensed location would be restricted. - ban gun show sales

6) Bans the sales and transfer of more than 50 rounds per month of Handgun Ammunition between private citizens without a vendor license
 
1) Bans the mail order or Internet sale of Handgun Ammunition

2) Handgun Ammunition sales are registered at the point of purchase

3) A new Handgun Ammunition vendor permit required

4) Handgun Ammunition vendor display security requirement

5) Handgun Ammunition sales at locations other than licensed location would be restricted. - ban gun show sales

6) Bans the sales and transfer of more than 50 rounds per month of Handgun Ammunition between private citizens without a vendor license

I'm not worried about Texas but I am worried that the federal government will see this and try and duplicate it.

I was born in San Diego and so very grateful to my father for moving my family east when I was still very young.
 
How do you tell the difference between ammo for a .44 mag revolver and some going into a lever action carbine in .44 mag? Or where a .30 carbine round is going?
 
This is why I left California 14 years ago and moved to Utah. What is sad is it use to be a great place to live years ago. I was born and raised there and will never move back. :cuss:
 
The great communist state of Californiacation. I hate it for you gun loving true red blooded Americans. Can't someone vote those morons out of office?
Three problems: one, there aren't many good candidates on the ballot and many run unopposed; two the R party has imploded and doesn't make any headway here ; three the districts are deliberately gerrymandered to ensure incumbants are kept in. Last election ZERO incumbants were kicked out. ZERO.
 
Not new in CA: Registration of retail ammo sales.

When I lived in California in the 1970's we had to register sales of handgun ammunition at the point of retail sale. Each retail ammo seller kept a bound registration log. So the idea isn't new in California. I left in 1978, so I don't know what happened after that.

For ammunition that could be used in either handgun or rifle (for instance .22lr) the vendor was required to querry the buyer on the intended use, handgun or rifle. If the answer was rifle, there was no registration.

Anyone know when that practice stopped in California?
 
YAY! Another thread talking smack on CA. If you dont live in this state you shouldnt really even comment on the matter. (OP) Thank you for letting us know that it passed. Thats all that really needs to be said here.


Lets try to keep from telling people to move out of the state.
 
The great communist state of Californiacation.

Communism doesn't have anything to do with this.

Speaking of which: what's funny is that California recently, after all these decades, got rid of the law which states that civil service employees can't belong to the communist party. Truth be told, California was the only state that had that law to begin with...
 
This state is far too left-wing for me to even be remotely proud I live in it. I can't wait until my family moves to Neveda. The first thing I'ma say when I get across the border:
"FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM."

It's illegal to discharge a BB gun (yes, a BB gun, no matter the caliber) in the City of Redding. This city really sucks wang hard.
 
... every law passed here (in California) migrates to a state near you. if you don't believe this just (ask) a native from Colorado, Arizona, Oregon etc. etc. and let them tell you from experience.

So far we haven't had a problem in Arizona with legislation. Of course our native resident left-wing folks try to follow the California example, but they don’t get far.

What is a problem is the immigration of California’s liberal minded types to this and other states who bring their attitudes and beliefs with them. They are something we could all do without, and they are the cause of much of the resentment that’s aimed at California by some members of this forum – and many others.
 
This kind of garbage DOES have legs. New Jersey first instituted the "Smart Gun Bill" and also, I believe, instituted the "Assault Rifle Ban" first.

Hopefully, we will have an auspicious decision by SCOTUS which will permit us to move forward dismantling these crackpots laws in the future.
 
Fluff: kick them out on sight! Refuse them service at your businesses, admission into social organizations, and vote against them in every instance of them running for public office. You can effectively stifle them out of an area. It's what they do to pro-2A people in CA all the time.
 
CA does enact numerous laws, granted. The population demographics appear to have changed over the decades, too.

CA doesn't exactly always 'lead the way' when it comes to firearms laws, though. A couple of other states have made their contribution in that respect, you know.

What CA does have, however, is a handgun sales market share that was upwards of 40% of the total handgun sales in the country last I heard ... according to what I've been told, anyway. Sounds like a lot. Someone at S&W told me that the company has to spend upwards of $500,000/yr to keep their handguns on the CA list.

That's significant folks. Don't think the major manufacturers are going to easily walk away from that portion of the market, even if it means introducing features to handguns which the majority of the rest of the country might not want to see introduced. If 4 out of 10 of the handguns you manufacture are going to have to conform to a specific state's requirements, is it surprising to consider that eventually it might be easier to simply make all of your production models conform to those requirements?

Don't be surprised if a few other states start picking up on such things, too.

Also, just for trivia's sake ...

When I recently went to a LE supply store I saw some ammunition I decided to pick up. They made me fill out my PERSONAL information in their store log book for ammunition sales and sign it. Reminded me of when I used to buy handgun ammunition at Gemco (except they didn't ask why I was buying it).

FWIW, I'm still planning to move from this state and take my retirement income with me. I'm very, very grateful that the law was changed a number of years ago, and CA can no longer collect personal income tax from the retirement money of retired CA employees who move to another state. :D
 
I'm glad I left California when I did.

Ever increasingly idiotic gun laws completely void of common sense are only one of the many reasons I left. Some of the other problems which affect your life on a daily basis (or monthly basis at the very least, depending on what area you're living in) when living in Cali are really high property and business taxes, REALLY HIGH rent or morgage out of proportion with the wages of alot of people, liberal politicians who never get kicked out of office because they cater to illegal aliens and do gooder suburbanite types, there's gang graffiti and trash everywhere, in alot of places you're constantly having your car broken into and sometimes people are actually trying to break into your home and you have to run them off with a gun (etc etc) and those are just an example of some of the problems I faced.

I still kind of look on Califonia as home just because I grew up there, but I'll never go back.
 
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