CA: Roosevelt High School Student Shot and Killed by Officer

[Chipperman]

Slightly updated version from the same link:

Fresno, CA (KFSN) -- A Roosevelt High School sophomore has been shot and killed by the school's police officer.
Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer says the shooting happened shortly before noon Wednesday on campus. Dyer says the 17 year old, identified by family members as Jesse Carrizales, attacked the officer, later identified as Junus Perry, with a modified bat, leaving him seriously injured.
Perry was treated at Community Regional Medical Center and released just before 5pm. According to Dyer, the officer managed to reach for his gun to protect himself but the clip fell out. Dyer says the officer reached for a second weapon he kept in an ankle holster and fired one shot at the student, killing him.
Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said, "In speaking with the officer that was involved in the incident, there is no recollection on his part of him having any type of dealing with this student on a negative basis. And, uh, he wasn't really familiar with who the student was. Um, it doesn't appear that, at least based on what we have found at this point in time, uh, that there any type of confrontation that had occurred prior to this, with the officer."

 

[PTK]

Note that while the article said "clip", the reporter in the video said "magazine".

That aside, that's a horrible way to go. Darwin still works, though.

His brother said "They could'a tazed him, could've hit him with a stick, whatever. Didn't need to shoot him!"

Yeah, right. If I get hit in the head with a baseball bat and get struck silly, I'll be sure to reach for something less-lethal...

 

[SsevenN]

The first time I ever drew my HK USP from a holster my thumb rode the "paddle" style magazine release and I slang the mag in the mud........

Granted that was three years ago, and my first hand gun, first draw ever.
But I still find that to be the biggest oversight on USP's......

 

[Mannlicher]

title of thread should be "kid attacks cop with bat, officer defends himself to detriment of out of control kid"

 

[Eyesac]

Mag disconnects have saved way more police officers then they have killed.

Where do people come up with this crap? What gives?

 

[Ithaca37]

Poor bastard (the cop) I hope he is ok.

title of thread should be "kid attacks cop with bat, officer defends himself to detriment of out of control kid"

+1
I wasn't sure what direction this was headed at first.

 

[Chipperman]

title of thread should be "kid attacks cop with bat, officer defends himself to detriment of out of control kid"

I used the title the article originally used.

 

[John Wayne]

Couldn't you just stick a finger from your free hand up the mag well and hold down the disconnect to get off a shot?

Impractical, yes, but wouldn't it be faster than reaching for a BUG?

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

His brother said "They could'a tazed him, could've hit him with a stick, whatever. Didn't need to shoot him!"

Now that's funny. Yes, your POS brother just hit me in the head with a baseball bat...Let me grab a stick when I have a perfectly good gun on my side.

Or maybe he should have called for a backup with that tazer. I'm sure he had plenty of time to think things over while he's getting pummeled with a baseball bat.

BTW, he was a 17 year old sophomore? LOL, don't most people graduate at 17?

 

[Winchester 73]

BTW, he was a 17 year old sophmore? LOL, don't most people graduate at 17?

Or 18.You are on point.

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

Yeah, now that I think about it, I would have just turned 16 if I was a sophomore in high school.

 

[USMC 1975]

"Couldn't you just stick a finger from your free hand up the mag well and hold down the disconnect to get off a shot?

Impractical, yes, but wouldn't it be faster than reaching for a BUG? "


He may have been able to do that, but lets give this Cop a break. He got clobbered in the head with a baseball bat. I am sure that if we lined a number of our forum members up and let a 250 lb guy take a swing at their noggin with a very heavy chuck of wood we would probably make a miscue somewhere along the line. Under the circumstances, I think this Cop did very well. He also is damn lucky to have not had any permanent side effects from the injury.

In regards to the brother saying they should have used a Tazer ? Here we go. The family will say what an angel he was and the bleeding heart liberals are going to come running with a list of what the cop should have done. The family will sue, get a $ 500 K " shut your mouth " payment and the Cop will be made out to be the villain.

I look at this entire incident as unfortunate. But, look at the bright side - there is one less POS on the streets that we will have to cloth and feed in prison someday once he became an adult and graduated to bigger crimes.

If your stupid enough to ambush a cop with a baseball bat, then you deserve everything you have coming to you, including a bullet.

Chris

 

[BruceRDucer]

Jake McCoy....you are so FUNNY!




"It doesn't matter what kind of gun you say it was. Urban legend already has it as being a Glock. So, it was a Glock."----JakeMcCoy

Jake, you are so FUNNY! You are a man after my own heart! Well said!

 

[doc2rn]

Zoogster~ 92FS....That is a .40

Uhm no it is not, 92= 9mm, 96=.40cal

 

[John Wayne]

I'm not saying the cop made a bad choice by reaching for his backup, just questioning what the best option would be if faced with a similar situation.

 

[Zoogster]

Uhm no it is not, 92= 9mm, 96=.40cal

Excuse me, they are issued 96FS in .40 cal, I meant to type that, but was a bit tired and mistyped after looking for specs on the 92 and 96 line.

I was looking them up to see if any models came with a mag disconnect and the last place I looked, the Beretta USA website, only gives detailed information on the 92 by name, referencing both the 92 and 96 at the same time. You can only look at some numbers for awhile for reference before it becomes a bit suggestive.
The last thing I was looking at before typing it in had 92 everywhere so I typed what I saw not what I was thinking.
http://products.berettausa.com/frame_tabellaprodotti_2002.asp?sgmt=31&Model=92/96 Series&descr=1

I did however edit post #9 to add the info with the correct model at about the same time. So I guess all is not lost.


None of the models seem to reference any type of magazine disconnect or magazine interlock.
I tried to see if it was an option, perhaps used by liability concerned departments, but it did not appear so.

 

[VARifleman]

Freaking crazy stuff.

As for mags dropping out. This is a problem with pocket carried keltecs on the left side, possibly the right side as well, but I haven't had a glock's mag fall out when drawn. I've had it fall out when it was picked up off the table if it has a long release (34/35), but this is not the case if it has a weapon light.

Good for the officer for keeping in control enough in the circumstances to get out alive. That is the goal, and he succeeded. How you get there is not very relevant, it is getting there that is important. There are ways of getting there that are more reliable than others, however something that should not be trained for (reaching in the mag for the disconnect safety, which wasn't actually present) is not a good course of action when you've trained for a BUG. Come on people, give the man a break. He's alive and that's what matters.

 

[jakemccoy]

I'd actually like to pay for a training session from the man.

 

[plexreticle]

There is something to be said for European style mag release; you know if you mag is locked in and you won't drop it by accident.