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Carrizales was killed after he attacked a campus police officer with a baseball bat shortly before noon, police said. He died at the scene. Carrizales' sister, Elisa Ortega, 27, said detectives notified the family about 2:30 p.m. She said they asked detectives why they didn't use a Taser, a non-lethal device that immobilizes with an electric current. The detectives did not answer the question, Ortega said. Carrizales had started at Roosevelt High in January. Before that, he was being home-schooled, his sister said. Ortega said Carrizales had no history of violence and was not affiliated with a gang. He was the youngest of 11 children.
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Why didn't he use the taser!?!?!

I don't know, maybe he just got clocked and didn't have time to think.

Maybe he didn't want to risk missing since he only has one shot with it.

Maybe he was already on the ground and not in the best position to use a taser?


Geez- do people think the cops walk around with a phaser set on stun and only shoot people with guns cause they like the blood?
 
He was the youngest of 11 children.
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I am sorry, but that is disgusting. 11 children? How can someone possibly manage that many children? I am sure someone will chime in and tell me I am wrong, but I would bet most families of that size are out of control.

Quality > Quantity
 
HMH, I saw that and thought the same thing. I bet if they did an investigation into his siblings the story would be very interesting.

Anyone found out the make and model of the pistol:scrutiny:
 
Well.. *now* he has a history of violence. And *he's* history, as well.

There are plenty of times where it would occur to me to possibly second guess the actions of a cop or someone else, but this isn't one of them. How did his mag fall out? **** happens in a fight, thats how. Fortunately he had a backup and knew how to use it, even after reportedly being hit in the head with a baseball bat.

As others have stated, this is a prime example of why magazine disconnects are a bad idea. One shot is still better than none.

My only problem with this story, is that the initial blow can't actually be as bad as it sounds. Anyone getting hit square in the head with a bat being swung by a 200lb individual isn't going to know what planet they are on by the time they hit the ground, if they are still alive at all.
 
I find two things amazing about this story:

Cop gets clocked in the head with a bat, maintains consciousness and is clearheaded enough to go for his gun before he gets hit again.

Cop was still clear-headed enough (remember, still just moments after getting clocked in the head with a bat) to recognize his primary wouldn't work, and draw and use his backup.

He must have had some good training.
 
The Foxnews.com version ends with:

"Silvia Carrillo, whose daughter is a sophomore at Roosevelt High, said the shooting did not seem justified.

"My son and my brother went to school here too, and nothing like this ever happened. I think this wasn't enough for him to kill the kid," she said."

Assuming the story is correct, I wonder how she would view getting her head bashed in.
 
This is the latest information regarding the problems the teen had and the final day of his life.

http://www.sacbee.com/114/story/871245.html

This was one messed up situation and all the story has not emerged, I think he had a real dislike for the man and waylaid him (as the story says)... He is over his problems now.

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One students reaction to it and statement:
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Alejandra Murillo, a 15-year-old sophomore, said she felt too anxious to go back to school Thursday, so stayed at home with her mother and grandfather.

"All the teachers' aides were just going to be asking us what happened and we weren't going to pay any attention to the lessons," she said. "It was enough just being there yesterday. I still don't think he needed to kill the guy."
 
Plus most cops never even pull their guns out, other than qualifying I know guys that retired without pulling thier guns from the holster. Just because thier cops dosen't mean they can shoot, to most it's just a job, especially CA, and NY.
 
I was surprised to read that some of the departments only require some to qualify once a year if the employee is not working the street :uhoh:

Seems to be an odd situation, life and death item and only qualify once a year:what: I wonder if that means they still have to shoot it more often but not for score:uhoh::confused:
 
Well to be fair, if you're one of the lucky (read: politically connected) Californians who actually has a CHL (or whatever they call it), you can carry in schools (well public schools anyway). I guess they figured that since hardly anyone could actually get one they didn't need to ban it.
 
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