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Rapper Snoop Dogg arrested, again

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Snoop Dogg was arrested Tuesday for investigation of illegally possessing a handgun and drugs as he left NBC Studios after performing on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno," police said.

The 35-year-old rapper, whose real name is Calvin Broadus, and two members of his entourage were arrested around 6 p.m. after a search of his Diamond Bar home and car, Sgt. Kevin Grandalski said.

Police seized a handgun and some illegal drugs, Grandalski said. He did not have details.

The sergeant said the rapper was arrested for investigation of being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm, possessing cocaine, transporting marijuana and having a false compartment in his vehicle, Grandalski said.


Um...that's illegal?

I just did a show in CA, where I had to file with the "Board of Equalization" for sales tax.

The terminology and attitude are truly Orwellian.

My question is, why HASN'T there been a revolution?
 
The arrest itself is not significant to THR's mission.

I'll leave this open for anybody with specific knowledge of California law about "false compartments" in an automobile.

Any other post will be deleted.

Art
 
I will attempt to look up the code but I am SURE that the "hidden compartment" is an ENHANCEMENT to a felony contraband crime.:scrutiny: I have seen it used for smugglers as an enhancement .
 
"and having a false compartment in his vehicle.."

I also understand (but this is open to verification) that it's illegal in CA to have a front door designed to slow down police entry.

Can anyone verify this?

So there's a deadbolt on your door going into a reinforced lockplate. Does this mean you're trying to delay police entry? (I'm not in CA.)
 
For what its worth....

My question is, why HASN'T there been a revolution?
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To answer that question, I think those who founded this Republic were spot on.
and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
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As for the actual statute, best I can find a quick search is:

2 California Criminal Law (3d), Crimes Against Public Peace and Welfare

III. NARCOTICS AND OTHER CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
.....I. [§117] Concealment in False Compartment.

Source: http://www.witkin.com/pages/witkin_library_pages/outlines/CRIM/Peace.htm

But not the actual text.
 
That link seems to at least imply that the false compartment rule is linked to drugs and drug related items.

So maybe to be illegal, there must be drug stuff in the compartment, or the intent to put something there.

And a concealed compartment for storing other items would be legal.

If that's true, it would depend a lot on the actual wording of the statute how risky it may be to use a concealed compartment for lawful reasons (how likely it would be to get arrested for it even if you had no illegal intent).

Wierd.
 
it is ilegal to

have a hidden compartment to smuggle drugs.
I think it was passed in the 70's or 80's and was meant to add charges to smuggling stuff across the border.
 
So are you saying your mad because he got busted? For the THIRD time this year! This time he has a gun (felon) in his possesion and more drugs. If this was any average Joe they would still be sitting in jail from the first bust, which is where he should be.

I know we have to feel sorry for keeping the hip hop, gangsta rappin' crowd down.:barf:
 
http://www.witkin.com/pages/witkin_library_pages/outlines/CRIM/Peace.htm

Look for I 117 under Narcotics and Other Controlled Substances, concealing in a false compartment.

Yes it is specifically written in California law, however it is part the law pertaining to narcotics distribution.

I do not believe that it is illegal to construct a false compartment to hide jewelry from theft or hide Christmas presents from your kids (unless you're giving them Heroin for the Holidays).

By posting this, I do not imply that I agree with our laws regarding controlled substances, because I don't. However, if you accept that there is a compelling state interest in jailing a good number of our population for involvement in satisfying the market for vices, then this law shouldn't bother you either.
 
madmike, remember our neighbors to our West had a brewhaha over this maybe 3 or 4 elections ago? Lisa Madigan went on television screaming about "hidden compartments".:rolleyes:

A while back there was an editorial in a police magazine that claimed that if criminals did not have places to hide guns in cars that police officer would be safer.:scrutiny: This dull-witted idea actually became law in several states including the usual suspects of California and Illinois.
 
"Good morning, Mr. Freeman. Any cell phones, pistols or RPGs on ya today?" U.S. Deputy Marshal, United States District Court--Southern Indiana, at Indianapolis, 30 November 2006.
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"Nope, just the flamethrower I've got strapped to my back, and the M1 Abrams parked out front in the 'No Parking' Zone, try to tow that Deputy !!!"


BTTT,

I heard this on the radio this morning, I believe that this is either the second or third time within the last year or so that Mr. Dogg has been arrested for Felon in possession. Once being at the John Wayne Airport.

Why is he still walking the streets, and not in TSA/Federal custody ??? (Oh, I forgot, he's a celeb, so bail was set low, he paid and he can continue to glom cash from the ignorant masses.)
 
El Tejon--I hadn't heard, but thanks.

Sort of ranks up there with that if you wear body armor or reinforce your door, you're obviously intending to resist arrest.:fire:

I suppose we won't truly be "Safe" until there are cameras over our toilets to make sure we don't flush contraband...just for our own good, of course.
 
I have to wonder if the tool compartment in the rear and the stowage under the passenger seat of my van, neither of which is readily visible and neither of which has ever been found during border searches or when entering controlled gov't installations, count as "hidden compartments."

They're standard products of the aftermarket van conversion industry.

But they aren't factory spec from Dodge...:uhoh::rolleyes: :scrutiny:
 
I have to wonder if the tool compartment in the rear and the stowage under the passenger seat of my van, neither of which is readily visible and neither of which has ever been found during border searches or when entering controlled gov't installations, count as "hidden compartments."
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Did you follow the link I gave, or do you just want to continue to spread false notions about this?

1. The law is part of Narcotics law.
2. The wording of the law is "concealing in a false compartment," and it is an additional offense used to prosecute someone who is clearly a regular transporter of contraband with an additional crime over someone who is just found with a baggie of drugs. Building a special false compartment implies a different level of drug transport than just having the stuff in the car, sort of like murder is prosecuted as a worse crime if it involved premeditation and especially "lying in wait."
3. False and Hidden are different. False implies a deliberate attempt to deceive, not just to hide, even when narcotics are involved.
4. It is not illegal to have a compartment false or otherwise, only to use it for hiding contraband. Similarly, it's not illegal to drive a car across the state line, but it is illegal to drive a car full of cocaine across the state line.

Again, many California laws really bother me, and I don't think the "drug war" as it presently exists is either effective or right, but this particular offense is just a part of the law governing drug trafficking.
 
Armed Bear:

I apologize in part. The way it was initially worded was problematic.

I still regard the law as outrageous, along with "Hate" crimes (As opposed to "love" crimes????), and the theory that it's somehow worse to shoot someone than say, bash their brains in with a bat or rape, kill and eat them.

Or, for a closer comparison, that "concealing" a weapon is worse than carrying it openly.
 
It sounded to me like he was asking a question ArmedBear. Besides, your link was useless, as it was just an index with no link to the actual law text. Regardless, I see no cause to get snippy with madmike.

But to madmike's question, as long as you don't have drugs in your car I don't think you have to worry.
 
Semantically, a false compartment wouldn't be a compartment. Were I Snoop, I would call it a bogus charge, since the compartment was very real. :)

Overall, though...if it's just an enhancement, well, it oughta just go on the big pile of other charges.
 
Mike,
I don't find it outrageous, he's a FELON! If he had a gun or drugs in a hidden compartment how can you not say he was wrong? Was he not trying to hide it? His charges are still going to be the same, FELON with a gun and drugs. I'm sure they'll add FELON with a concealed weapon to the charges.

If it was you or me (or him) and all we had in it was money, cell phone... there wouldn't be an issue.
 
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds, oh lord yeah!
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Love the Sig 50!
 
Besides, your link was useless, as it was just an index with no link to the actual law text
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I give you the index to the exact law in question, which no one else here bothered to TRY to do in between their speculation about the law, and you are too lazy to look it up?

I mean, I don't care, but don't give ME crap for it.:p
 
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