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Cabela's Pietta '58 ammo

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by kBob, May 17, 2012.

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  1. kBob

    kBob Member

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    Anyone have experience with the latest Pietta '58s from Cabela's (which are on sale $180)that can recommend what Ball size to get?

    .451 too small?

    .457 too big?

    .454 Just Right and eaten all up?

    I am thinking......still cheap beyound belief, but this is tempting.

    -kBob
     
  2. Tommygunn

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    Pietta generally uses .451 balls, but I've heard that people do use .454.
    The instructions ought to tell you what to use.
    When you seat the ball in the chamber, a ring of lead should be shaved off from the ball; if not then you need to go to the next larger size.
     
  3. Greg528iT

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    I had that very same question.. an older Cabela's '58.. in the end I took the cylinder with me, the kid at the warehouse outfitters, popped a box of .451"s open and dropped one on the cylinder.. it didn't go in. It'll shave a hair off the .451.
    I suppose if it was a little too small, fell in, but not round enough to roll out, I may have had to take the nipple out and push it with a stick.
     
  4. Hammerdown77

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    .454 has proven to be just right on my new Pietta 1860 Army from Cabela's. I don't know why it wouldn't be the same on the 1858 New Army.
     
  5. towboat_er

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    I use 454s.
     
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  6. mgmorden

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    I use 454's in my '58 Pietta.
     
  7. Jaymo

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    I use .454 in mine.
    Good to know that .452 swaged lead bullets will work.
     
  8. eddiegun

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    My Pietta Remington NMA(from Cabela's) works great with a .454 and shave's a nice ring. BTW I've got about 500-600 rounds through my 8" model and I have no complaints with her.
     
  9. towboat_er

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    I just ordered the 5 1/2 Remmy.
     
  10. Lunie

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    If the Pietta 1858 is like my Pietta 1860...

    .451's shave a noticible ring.
    .454's shave a more healthy ring.
    The cast balls that came with the starter kit were barely .450", and still shaved a ring.

    YMMV
     
  11. Hellgate

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    I use .454s in every 44 I own. The .451s work in all those I didn't ream to .450. I have used .457s occasionally and they were just fine too.
     
  12. Saddlebag Preacher

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    I've always used .454 in my pietta's to get a good lead ring when I seat the ball. Always had good results.

    Now I have a Pietta Shooter's model from Navy Arms dated mid 1980's and has the progressive rifleing. It takes a .457 ball. But I have a .45 conversion cylinder from kirst and load .454 250gr bullets and it holds good groups. .451 bullets won't engage the rifeling enough.
     
  13. ZVP

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    I have one, you're gonna love it! The shorter barrel does just enough to make the revolver into a super easy handling piece! I wish I'd have bought two of them instead of an origonal length Army and the Sheriff model. The Origonal seems to be Soooolong and slow to draw!
    I use .451's in mine and get nice rings. It will handle the.454's.
    ZVP
     
  14. ssyoumans

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    Just to contribute, the best fitting primers are Remington #10, despite the owners manual saying #11. #11 are loose, just saying.
     
  15. Tinpan58

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    .454 work best in mine, also 2nd the remington #10 caps. Great cap gun, great price!
     
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    go with the 454 i dont feel like i had much accuracy with the 451 and the
    457 s are just a little hard on the loading lever i thought

    but they all work.

    i do prefer the 451 s when im using paper cartridges though
     
  17. Jaymo

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    Yup. The .454s shave a good ring, and are the right size for my Sam Yang 909.

    Remington #10 caps definitely fit best. Don't have to pinch 'em or anything.
     
  18. kBob

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    Turns out the local gun store had all three available and I went with Hornady .454 . Looks like the box changed since I bought same for Colts some time ago and there is now a sealed plastic bag inside the box holding the balls. I had only 4 balls left in my stuff box. I had taken two out to show my kids history class at school that is finishing the year with the ACW as I brought a Colt type for show. (along with an ENfield 3 bander a saber and a large Bowie knife. Little private schools can actually appreciate parents willing to share knowledge) FOrtunately I had mistakenly picked up #10 caps a few months back and put them away so that is taken care of.

    Looks like all is in readiness. Soon I will know how well .454s work in a Remmie.

    -kBob
     
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    I have two Pietta 1858s in .44, one blued with a 5.5" barrel, the other stainless with an 8" barrel. Both guns like .454 balls and Remington No.10 caps.
     
  20. ZVP

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    I have had good results with the .451 size but when they're not available I'll shoot the .454, it shaves just a small amount more of a ring and it likely seals better.
    I haven't had any bad experience using the .451 balls at all. I also use COW for filler and treated Felt wads for flash-over protection.Don't ever want to have a chainfire!
    ZVP
     
  21. Black Duck Charlie

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    My February 2012 purchase seems to prefer the .454 ball.
     
  22. Jaymo

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    I keep reading about y'all using cows as fillers in yer cap guns. I can't even fit a calf into the chamber of my Pietta, much less a full grown cow.
    Could I use goats instead?
     
  23. Dave Markowitz

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    COW = Cream of Wheat
     
  24. Captain*kirk

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    Simply mic out the cylinder bores.
    You will require a ball size .003-.005 larger for a good seal.
     
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