CAI VZ-58, *or* CAI GP-75?

[TheGewehrGuy]

I can't find the VZ-2008 in stock anywhere, whether its online or through a distributor without having to pay a crap load online for it.

My uncle just bought a mini-30 and Zastava AK-47, and we already have a (beautiful, brand new) Russian SKS, so I was thinking a VZ-58 variant would complete the 7.62x39 collection we randomly started, plus I am a fan of the rifle.

What do you guys think?

 

[St.Zu]

I think wait and get what you originally wanted. Otherwise you will be looking every so often wondering what if....

 

[rocinante]

I like both my vz2008. Shoots and handles nicely, makes my saiga AK47 feel clunky in comparison.

Good theme and with a vz2008 you would have all the major rifles covered.

 

[Combatops1911]

Call Waffen Werks ASAP to see if they still have any. Very nice VZ58's. Last I checked they had like 15 left and that was the end for now.... Join theakforum.net for detailed info on them...

Here is a review someone did on ar15:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=132846

There contact into is: 865-474-9702 / email: [email protected]

Let us know if you grab one and post pics if so!

 

[armoredman]

J&G is out? Too bad, never ended up getting the funds together, would have loved to do a side by side review.

 

[A_Matthew]

J&G is out? Too bad, never ended up getting the funds together, would have loved to do a side by side review.

Actually, they aren't.

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info...i-backordered-/cPath/209_214/products_id/4624

I'll be looking forward to that side review!

 

[wojownik]

FWIW, J&G list them as "backordered" at time of posting.

 

[Bubba613]

VZ58 is a fantastic gun. I'd take one over an AK any day.

 

[A_Matthew]

FWIW, J&G list them as "backordered" at time of posting.

Sorry. I meant this one.

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info...eiver,-by-cai-/cPath/209_214/products_id/3281

 

[Maverick223]

I like both my vz2008. Shoots and handles nicely, makes my saiga AK47 feel clunky in comparison.

Bingo! I don't have a VZ-2008, but I do own a VZ-58 (Czech D-Technik version of the same carbine) and completely agree with this statement.

Go here for more info, et cetera...

 

[armoredman]

Still don't have the funds.

 

[CTW]

Not trying to bash a company, but I have sent my wasr-10 back to century for the third time. They keep bsing me instead of fixing the problem with my rifle. I would never buy one of their products again after this experience. If you want a VZ save your money and get the D-tecknik.

 

[TheGewehrGuy]

Wow thanks, A Matthew!

Thanks!

When I checked they were both backorder-able , but apparently just the fixed stock one is. But thats a shame cause I was SOOO hyped up for the VZ 58 then so disappointed when I couldn't find it anywhere, then I checked out the GP-75 and am SOOO hyped up about it now. Also I wanted the fixed stock one, but oh well I can always order one.

I wish I had the money for both! Or better yet, an Arsenal AK and a CZ VZ!

 

[Maverick223]

FWIW the VZ.58 folding stocks are built like a tank and lock up like a bank vault (absolutely no wiggle or flex outta mine). Still not the most comfortable cheek weld, but a simple paracord wrap fixes most of that.

 

[rocinante]

I used 5/16 fuel hose and covered it with sports tape and put a soviet grenade launcher pad on it for LOP. Real comfortable and looks good, less bulky than cords or foam covers.

 

[Maverick223]

The only good thing about 550-cord is you have a pretty good survival kit rolled up. It is your emergency cordage, fishing line, snares, et cetera. I'll probably never need to use it as such, but I like to have it on rifles that might be used in a survival type capacity. FWIW, there is also plenty of clearance for a fire striking steel (less magnesium block) taped to the inside of the bottom handguard...something else i'll likely never need, but nice to have if I ever do.

 

[dnthmn]

If you are still looking for a 2008, www.classicarms.us has them listed as in stock.

 

[TheGewehrGuy]

Is classic arms reputable?


I prefer the wood stock anyway, so I think I might order that! And thats still an excellent price for one.

I backordered the VZ from J&G but they aren't getting them in until "they have no idea". They said they guessed 3-4 weeks but they never know if its coming from century.

 

[TheGewehrGuy]

Nevermind, I guess they are out of stock...thats really a bummer.

 

[Maverick223]

Classic Arms are good folks to deal with, i'd buy from them before most other retailers save for my favorite LGS. Give 'em a call, they might know when a shipment is coming in.

 

[dnthmn]

Sorry they're out, but yes, Classic Arms is a good company to deal with. I've bought more from them than any other source and haven't had a complaint yet.


@Maverick223, where/who is LGS? I did a quick net search and didn't come up with anything.

 

[Maverick223]

LGS is just an abbreviation for local gun shop (FWIW Eagle Guns in Concord, NC is my favorite). Classic Arms is fairly close by as well.

 

[dnthmn]

Bummer. I thought I'd discovered a new site to peruse.