That’s a great chart!
When I shot registered benchrest matches there were no excuses, period, that was one thing I loved about it.
Calibrate my expectations please!
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When I shot registered benchrest matches there were no excuses, period, that was one thing I loved about it.
Looking at the groups presented by the OP my thought is that it is the shooter, not the load. My experience is that there really is not a sweet spot that is measured in 1/10's of grains of powder and that most loads will shoot better than I do unless they are really bad loads. I shoot my target 22 worlds better than I do my 686. I shoot my 686 better than I do my Blackhawk. My offhand groups at 10 yards can vary from 1" to 4" from the same box of reloads and gun. Each group will have a couple of "perfect" shots and a couple of bad ones. Resting my wrist does not help as much as I want it to. That amount of variation is not the loads. I do have one powder that shoots far better than all the rest in my 3 guns I load for. But...I think it is because it is by far the highest velocity load I shoot and the bullet stays in the barrel for a shorter time for me to move it. I have to work hard not to flinch with that load though. I can not count on shooting my best group with it every time nor often do it two groups in a row.
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Agreed
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I'm reading is this and nodding my head in agreement. Some days I'm on fire, some days I can't hit the backstop.
"It's me, dammit. Not the gun. Not the load. Not the bullet. Me."
This is the way I am too. I've never considered myself any better than a mediocre shot. Sigh.
I keep trying . Although, after 40 years of shooting, one would think.....
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That’s good honest feedback and I appreciate it. I’m sure much of the group size is me; I would just like to find out how much! I will continue playing with other powders and perhaps I can get a handle on that.
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I respectfully disagree. Of course there are many, many variables, bullet type and fit, charge weight accuracy, are his loads really that consistent as compared to the factory .22 LR. I did not think his groups were all that bad especially with a new gun. But one of the fun things about reloading is finding the sweet spot with a particular combination. I have several times fallen upon combinations after trial and error that have come down to literally 1/10th of a grain. It was also the chase that I enjoyed. Its also something I think that we are all going to have to get used too again. The ability to get the exact bullet that you want, different brand primers than your used to if you can get them at all etc. I think if you have been doing this for a while most loaders can call out a favorite loading from memory given time proven combinations. 90% of my loads are repetitive, been doing them for decades but only after I worked them up and found the sweet spot. I for the first time this morning loaded SRP in place of SPP. I loaded down 10% or .5 a grain and intend to work back up to my favorite loading in search of let me say it " the sweet spot". It may be a different number, but I will do it 1/10th a grain at a time. Yes, there is a limit to my marksmanship, to big of a cup of coffee before range time or maybe one too many adult beverages the night before will play a part.
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At one time I could see my sights clearly. But as I aged so did my eyes. Now every sight is just a blur. I've moved to dot sights on the hand guns I shoot the most. Even with them the dot is not designed for precision. Most are over driving the LED making them larger than they should be. I like the one with adj brightness then I get what I need. Add in a bad astigmatism, cataracts just lucky to see the target. There is a reason I use 24x+ rifle scopes when I shoot.
At one time I tried a special set of glasses with a tri-focal in one and regular lens in the other. All this did as give me head ache. I was able to see the sights though and the target, but my brain had a hard time combining the 2.
I found out in most cases back the load off to target velocities help new shooters, and shooting closer distances. In a way that they do not get the flinch reaction every time they pull the trigger. As they gain confidence you can start bumping the load up and moving the target back farther.
At one time I tried a special set of glasses with a tri-focal in one and regular lens in the other. All this did as give me head ache. I was able to see the sights though and the target, but my brain had a hard time combining the 2.
I found out in most cases back the load off to target velocities help new shooters, and shooting closer distances. In a way that they do not get the flinch reaction every time they pull the trigger. As they gain confidence you can start bumping the load up and moving the target back farther.
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