kolob10
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Anyone know what guns can't be sold to residents of California?
California gun sales
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El Tejon
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Are you talking long guns or pistols, or both?
A man with a gun!
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Aw, you can sell us your guns.
But all transfers must go through a FFL.
But all transfers must go through a FFL.
There are two lists in general:
Firearms approved for sale;
Firearms not approved for sale ( or for ownership ) .
Here's one of several starting points:
http://www.calguns.org/
Are you looking to move there, looking to sell something to someone living there, or something else?
Firearms approved for sale;
Firearms not approved for sale ( or for ownership ) .
Here's one of several starting points:
http://www.calguns.org/
Are you looking to move there, looking to sell something to someone living there, or something else?
Dr. Peter Venkman
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Depends on the type of firearm. There are 'bad' pistols that cannot be sent into the state, the same with 'bad' rifles.
Rifles are banned either by name or by assault weapon 'features'. There are ways around the AW laws. If the rifle is a C&R and over 50 years old, it can be shipped to an 03 FFL.
Rifles are banned either by name or by assault weapon 'features'. There are ways around the AW laws. If the rifle is a C&R and over 50 years old, it can be shipped to an 03 FFL.
Gordon Fink
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Just tell us what gun you want to sell, and one of us helpful Californians will tell you if it is legal or not.
~G. Fink
~G. Fink
Car Knocker
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A firearm doesn't have to be 50 years old to be a C&R, and a lot aren't.
GearHead_1
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The list would probably be shorter if you asked which firearms can be sold in CA.
QuarterBoreGunner
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My thoughts exactly.
The OP's post is extremely uninformative.
Are you trying to sell to a CA resident or are you a CA resident? It makes a big difference in what can and cannot be sold.
As the seller you can make any off list item comply with CA law before being sold, in which case you just need to consult the list of banned by name firearms, and remove parts with bad features and all standard capacity magazines over 10 rounds.
As the buyer and a CA resident in CA you don't really have that same level of control to make something compliant before it enters CA and are more limited to what others choose to make compliant for you to purchase, or do your own builds.
The list of rules and features which are allowed and not allowed etc is so long that without more info it really would take too long to cover all possible angles in a post.
Are you trying to sell to a CA resident or are you a CA resident? It makes a big difference in what can and cannot be sold.
As the seller you can make any off list item comply with CA law before being sold, in which case you just need to consult the list of banned by name firearms, and remove parts with bad features and all standard capacity magazines over 10 rounds.
As the buyer and a CA resident in CA you don't really have that same level of control to make something compliant before it enters CA and are more limited to what others choose to make compliant for you to purchase, or do your own builds.
The list of rules and features which are allowed and not allowed etc is so long that without more info it really would take too long to cover all possible angles in a post.
QuarterBoreGunner
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For any and all question regarding the absolutely asinine laws regarding firearms ownership in California, your best resource is:
www.calguns.net
If you can't get your questions answered there, then they can't be answered at all.
www.calguns.net
If you can't get your questions answered there, then they can't be answered at all.
kolob10
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CA gun sales
Sorry gentlemen, I forgot I posted this. I'm selling a couple Smith pistols to a fellow in CA. They are models 28 & 48. Is that OK? Regards, Larry
Sorry gentlemen, I forgot I posted this. I'm selling a couple Smith pistols to a fellow in CA. They are models 28 & 48. Is that OK? Regards, Larry
QuarterBoreGunner
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Larry,
Search here, and if they're on the list (which, unfortunately they're not) you can transfer them to a receiving FFL here in the Golden State that can then release them to your buyer.
Handguns *not* on the "approved" list cannot be released by an Cali FFL.
There are exemptions of course; LEO can have handguns transferred to them that are not on the list (go figure) and C&R handguns are exempt as well. So if your buyer is a LEO or the two revolver are C&R you're good to go. If not, they cannot be released by the FFL.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely ridiculous I know.
We're working on it.
Search here, and if they're on the list (which, unfortunately they're not) you can transfer them to a receiving FFL here in the Golden State that can then release them to your buyer.
Handguns *not* on the "approved" list cannot be released by an Cali FFL.
There are exemptions of course; LEO can have handguns transferred to them that are not on the list (go figure) and C&R handguns are exempt as well. So if your buyer is a LEO or the two revolver are C&R you're good to go. If not, they cannot be released by the FFL.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely ridiculous I know.
We're working on it.
Darthbauer
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I think I read someone say if you take off what makes them illegal it would then be ok, thats not true in the case of handguns. You cant take out the threaded barrel of a USP tactical and put one in without threads and then sell it.
I wish you could.
I wish you could.
Librarian
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Actually, you can do exactly that. In this specific case you would be removing a feature which makes a handgun into a California 'assault weapon', and so long as you don't replace the threaded barrel you're within the legal requirements.
Now, as it happens the Tactical is not on the Roster, which is a different issue but effectively prevents sales into California of that model. Without the threaded barrel, LEO can buy it; new CA residents may bring it in.
If it's already here, a Tactical without the threaded barrel can be sold between CA residents via Private Party Transfer, properly run through a CA FFL.
Actually section 12020 of the California Penal code does not prohibit actual ownership of high capacity magazines. My interpretation the statute is that the sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine, is illegal unless you fall under an exception such as being a LEO.
It's also ok to import if:
The real problem is that if you don't own one now, it's pretty difficult to legally obtain one. There seems to be some debate whether you can bring one into the state if you were domiciled in another state where it was legal to possess, I don't think you can but some disagree with me.
This is only my opinion and is not legal advice, it should not be relied upon in any way, do your own homework.
Single action revolvers and single shot pistols with minimum barrel length & overall length are exempt from the safe gun roster. Lookup sec 12133 in the California penal code for the details. It has been suggested that removing the double action sear from a DA revolver would convert the handgun into a single action, making it legal to transfer.
kolob10
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CA gun transfer
I reviewed the CA gunlaws. Thanks for the reference. I am transferring the Smith model 48 & 28 to a FFL in California. He has stated that he is the buyer. I have a copy of his FFL and business card. I see nowhere in the CA gunlaws book where that is legal since my pistols are not on the Approved list. Is that correct? Thanks for all your comments gentlemen.
I reviewed the CA gunlaws. Thanks for the reference. I am transferring the Smith model 48 & 28 to a FFL in California. He has stated that he is the buyer. I have a copy of his FFL and business card. I see nowhere in the CA gunlaws book where that is legal since my pistols are not on the Approved list. Is that correct? Thanks for all your comments gentlemen.
A man with a gun!
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If I'm not mistaken... The California DOJ. approved handgun list only applies to the purchase of new handguns.
Those rules do not apply to the purchase of used guns or private party transfers.
Those rules do not apply to the purchase of used guns or private party transfers.
Quiet
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The approved list applies to any new or used handgun sold or transfered by a CA 01-FFL dealer.
The approved list does not apply to private party transfers.
A private party transfer is a face to face transfer between two CA residents faciliated by a CA 01-FFL dealer.
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