Can a mosin shoot 1 MOA?

[monoceros]

The title says it all, can a high quality mosin with high quality ammo shoot 1 MOA. I'm trying to decide on my next rifle and if mosins were this accurate it would be a huge plus. Thanks for the help.

 

[dispatch55126]

They could, but you'd have to find one that's barrel and crown are near perfect.

 

[CDignition]

IF it had an unfired barrel, and you had Match ammo, maybe....but it is unlikley

 

[slzy]

before 1965,service rifles were used in biathlon. i have never seen one,but would really like to see how they were prepared.

 

[R.W.Dale]

In hot rodding there is a saying speed = money how fast do you want to go?

The same pretty much applies to rifle accuracy. The type of rifle is almost irrelevant given enough on the money side of the equation.

can a Moisin shoot sub MOA, Certainly given the effort, work and money is put into the ammo, barrel, action and stock preparation. Are you going to buy a surplus commie 91/30 with a case of silvertip and print sub inch or even two inch groups groups. Probably not.

 

[Dave R]

Its possible. If someone here has one that'll do it, I won't be shocked.

 

[MilsurpShooter]

Possible? Yes

Likely? No

These things were made to shoot minute of German. There are ones that are better then others granted. But chances are the ones you find in the stores and what not aren't going to be up to your standards. You can take the time and inves the money to get it there but many aren't going to do that on a $60-$100 rifle

 

[Zullo74]

Of course it's possible.....if you shoot one shot groups!

 

[chris in va]

I read an article about bedding the Mosin rifle. Seems to help quite a bit.

 

[270Win]

I have an M38 that has done 1.7" and 2" groups at 100 yards with light-ball Hungarian silvertip; perhaps very lucky, perhaps a good rifle, perhaps a mix of the two.

But I'd say yes, it is possible. Be prepared to shop around for awhile to find a great bore, though.

 

[Deer Hunter]

Here's a sub-moa Mosin sniper.

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=258433&highlight=Mosin+sniper

 

[goldshlagerxx]

A russian Mosin? Maybe, but not likely... A FINN Mosin? Definately...

 

[jlmurphy]

As previously noted, the Finnish MN were very accurate, even used in competition. The loose head on the bolt goes along way towards ensuring the lugs have full contact every time. Good barrel, good ammo, decent sights, 1 MOA is possible.

 

[grimjaw]

The best I've been able to manage with new factory ammo at 100 yards was about 2 MOA, and that's with a replica sniper. Given one with a better crown and trigger I might do a little better.

With a 1939 Izhevsk, I can regularly hit (with authority) a 24"x36" gong at 450 yards using open sights, using surplus ammo. I'm satisfied with consistent 4-6 MOA out of a $80-100 rifle and $0.10-0.12/round ammunition.

jm

 

[_N4Z_]

Finnish yes

Finn M39's can shoot 1moa.

My M39 is a 1942 Sako that has seen much use. I've had it less than 6 months now and with 30+ year old surplus it managed 1.75" @ 100 yards, several times.

That is with open sights.

Match grade ammo and a scope and I have no doubt the rifle could/would shoot 1moa.

 

[Jeremy2171]

Several of my Finn rifles can do it or come very close to doing it. Had a scout scoped M39 that held just over 1MOA with milsurp Yugo ammo (most of the time). Put some SMK 175s in it and it just drops them into tiny little clusters.

 

[GarandOwner]

Mine Gets MOA with Wolf ammo, mine was an ex sniper that I re-drill and tapped. It has a 3.5x PU scope
Here's my range report:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=258433

 

[rangerruck]

i got lucky with one, never issued all match numbers, m38. it is sick with wolf in 147 and 185 grainers. i don't even bother to scope it, its too schweet.

 

[silverlance]

i do it quite regularly with my beatup m39 finn. what i do is put a bunch of 1lt soda bottles on the berm. then i shoot off only the caps.

that's about 1inch. i figure if i can hit 3 bottle caps in a row, i've just shot 1moa group. did that last sunday.

 

[DMK]

Just keep in mind that a Finn M39 is a $200-$350 rifle. Whereas your average Russian Mosin-Nagant goes for $70-$125.

 

[armoredman]

With handloads, my 1920 Izzy 91/30 does about 2 inch. I am still experimenting. The M38 will do no better than 3 inch, though.

 

[TIMC]

My 91/30 sniper at 100 yards using Silver Bear 180 grain ammo

 

[Cosmoline]

There are Mosins, and then there are Mosins. It's difficult to find a true MOA Soviet 91/30, though not impossible. Among the Finns there are many that shoot that well. Particularly the 28/30 and the M-30's with fresh barrels. The M-39's are exceedingly accurate if you can keep that big birch stock from pressing the barrel.

Certainly given the effort, work and money is put into the ammo, barrel, action and stock preparation.

You guys need to do your homework! The Finns already put in that effort.

 

[cracked butt]

Most of the problems are with the varying groove depts and bore diameters. A .310" will work 'good enough' in most mosins, but if the rifle happends to have a groove diameter greater than that, and likely will, its hard to get good accuracy with an undersized bullet.

If you carefully fit a cast lead bullet to the barrel of the rifle and slow it down to around 1600 fps, shooting MOA shouldn't be too difficult, not only do you have a bullet that is of the right size for the bore and grooves, but you are eliminating much of the violent vibration caused by full power loads.

 

[ball3006]

I have two that will do moa....

one is a "43 Tikka barreled 91/30 that will do moa with Albanian ammo. The other is a M39 B barrel that will do it with Wolf 200 gr sp. Both rifles are not scoped......I have a '41 Tikka barreled M91 that will come close. Love to take them to the range and shoot next to bubba with his multi thousand buck space rifle. I paid 90 bucks for the 91/30, 150 for the M39 and 70 for the M91.....life is good...chris3