Can America Ever be Weaned off its Love Affair with Guns

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Published on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 by the Independent / UK
The Big Question: Can America Ever be Weaned off its Love Affair with Guns?
by Andrew Gumbel


WASHINGTON -
Why is US gun culture in the news?

This week's school shootings in Amish country, in which five children died, are just the latest in a seemingly never-ending string of spectacular mass murders to hit the headlines in the United States.

Last week, a gunman in the Colorado Rockies burst into a schoolroom and killed a student before turning his weapon on himself. Seven years ago, we had the bloodbath at Columbine High School. We've had disgruntled ex-employees shooting up their former workplaces, shootings in fast-food restaurants, and a parishioner in Fort Worth, Texas, shooting up his local church.

Each time it happens, a panoply of reasons comes to the fore. Gun-control activists blame the phenomenon largely, if not wholly, on easy access to firearms. Cultural conservatives like to blame Hollywood for its violent movies and video games. Other frequently identified causes are the prevalence of antidepressant prescriptions, the peculiar alienation of new white suburbs and the warp-effect of the media.

Is it about the guns?

There's no question that the gun culture - stemming back to the frontier spirit of the 19th century and justified, at least by gun-ownership advocates, by the Second Amendment of the Constitution - plays a major role in perpetuating the high numbers of violent deaths.

In the US, there are roughly 17,000 murders a year, of which about 15,000 are committed with firearms. By contrast, Britain, Australia and Canada combined see fewer than 350 gun-related murders each year. And it's not just about murder. The non-gun-related suicide rate in the US is consistent with the rest of the developed world. Factor in firearms, and the rate is suddenly twice as high as the rest of the developed world.

Children are affected particularly hard. An American youth is murdered with a firearm every four and a half hours on average. And an American youth commits suicide with a firearm every eight hours. It's worth remembering that many of the most spectacular mass murders of recent years were really suicides, with the perpetrators choosing to take a few other people with them while they were at it. Gun-control advocates argue they manage to carry out their murderous fantasies only because firearms give them the means to do so.

Why is gun control so ineffective?

Any adult with a clean criminal record can buy a gun in the US with relative ease. Gun shops and dealers will conduct mandatory background checks - introduced under the 1993 Brady bill, named after the White House Press Secretary James Brady, who was hit and disabled during an assassination attempt on President Reagan in 1981. But dealers at gun shows - popular throughout the heartland - are exempt from the federal law, making it easy for criminals or children to lay their hands on whatever they want. The semi-automatic TEC-9 machine pistols used by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold at Columbine were bought at a Colorado gun show.

Federal law, more generally, is subject to constant pressure from the National Rifle Association, the powerful gun-ownership lobby group, which has the influence to run elected officials out of office if they dare to challenge its agenda. That explains why a nationwide ban on semi-automatic assault weapons, introduced during the Clinton administration, was allowed to expire on the eve of the 2004 presidential election - despite the abiding fear of al-Qa'ida sleeper cells possibly operating in the US and planning another attack. Not only did John Kerry, the Democratic candidate, not feel able to use this as a campaign issue against President Bush. He felt obliged to tout his own gun-loving bona fides for fear of losing key swing states such as Pennsylvania.

State by state, gun-control laws vary widely. California is relatively strict. Colorado closed the "gun-show loophole" in the wake of Columbine, and Oregon has followed suit. Seven states have assault weapon bans, and 19 have laws making it a crime for gun owners to leave weapons in places where they might fall into the hands of a child. Pennsylvania, with its hunting and shooting traditions (the movie The Deerhunter was set there), has one of the worst gun-control regimes. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence gave Pennsylvania a D+ grade last year.

What about the broader culture?

Donald Sutherland, the Canadian-born actor, once pointed out it is almost as easy to buy a gun in Canada as it is in the US, yet the incidence of gun-related deaths in Canada is dramatically lower. He argued that both countries have a frontier spirit, only that the iconic figure of the Canadian West is the Mountie - a law officer - while the iconic figure of the American West is the outlaw. Gangsters and crime syndicates have flourished in the US, and Hollywood has certainly done its bit to glamourise the empowerment of a man wielding a firearm.

Even the most ardent gun-control advocates will acknowledge there is more going on than just access to deadly weaponry. Tom Mauser, who lost a son in the Columbine shootings, blames several other factors. He sees a latent violence in the culture, spanning everything from television shows to the uncompromising rhetoric of talk-radio to the eruption of road rage. He also worries about alienation among young people, poor parental oversight and inadequate communication between school authority figures and students - especially in a suburban high school such as Columbine.

What role does the media play?

Park Dietz, perhaps America's foremost criminal profiler, believes saturation media coverage of one mass murder will lead, almost inevitably, to another mass murder within a couple of weeks. He told The Independent recently: "It's not that the news coverage made the person paranoid, or armed, or suicidally depressed. But you've got to imagine this small number of people sitting at home, with guns on their lap and a hitlist in their mind. They feel willing to die. "When they watch the coverage of a school shooting or a workplace mass murder, it takes only one or two of them to say - 'that guy is just like me, that's the solution to my problem, that's what I'll do tomorrow'."

The Amish country murders bear a disconcerting similarity to last week's shootings in Bailey, Colorado. In both cases, the gunman released the boys in the room and attacked the girls. Coincidence? Perhaps more a case of one high-profile event triggering another.

Is there hope for an end to America's gun violence?

Yes...

* With every high-profile mass murder, victims' advocates and gun-control lobbyists gain more visibility, and more influence

* Someone, eventually, will make the link to homeland security: why make it so easy for al-Qa'ida to acquire assault weapons?

* The numbers of American children who die in gun violence means sooner or later, the madness will stop

No...

* Congress is in thrall to the NRA, and is too scared to act

* The burst of reformist energy that followed Columbine has subsided, and the most recent mass murders have been greeted with resigned indifference

* The US media is too addicted to its regular, real-life horror show to want it to stop

Have fun, y'all.
 
We've been battling this kind of B.S as long as I can remember. The only antidote is to fight it on every front. Support the NRA, support pro 2A politicians and teach someone gun safety and shooting as often as you get the chance. Oh. And take some rolaids before you read the paper.
 
Agreed. Its a large battle front but honestly I think we can win out on this one.

My personal steps:

1. Get friends and new people interested in owning and supporting guns.
2. Take friends and new people hunting

Its necessary to get more people interested if we hide in the shadows and pop out only when new legislation comes up we cannot and will not win this fight.

I have met a lot of people who are interested in guns and the reason they did not get involved is because they did not know how or were to shy. Thats the darn problem you have to get people interested you have to teach them safety and you have to invite them to join the culture and be part of something greater than themselves.
 
Love affair with guns? LOL

It's more of a Love affair with Freedom and Liberty and the Preservation of both.
 
That article was so full of half truths and non-sequiters that it takes your breath away. I don't suppose that paper would publish any kind of point by point rebuttal anytime soon though..
 
Interesting article. I find myself fascinated with guns, though I've never had the inclination to go on a shooting spree.
In the US, there are roughly 17,000 murders a year, of which about 15,000 are committed with firearms.
Yet the drinking problems that plague most civilized nations claim far more lives, the illegal immigrant in Charlotte who killed a teenage girl while driving drunk a few months back wont be in that statistic. I believe the media hype is the largest factor in our gun control issues, showing the hell out of the few high profile shootings. How many schools in the US? I think any school shooting is a terrible, horrific event, but there is not so many as to condemn our right to own firearms of our choosing. Video games, bad parenting, movies, all to blame I guess. Nearly 300 million people in the US, with 17,000 murders. Thats 1 in every 17647 will be murderd in any given year, 1 in 20,000murdered with a gun. Not such bad odds, I think. According to the National Safety Council, one’s yearly chances of dying from all external causes were 1 in 1,755 in 2002.
 
Semi-automatic TEC-9 machinepistol? That's redundant. I don't feel like bashing this again as I already have in another thread here. http://www.f15.com/showthread.php?t=3231

Assault rifles are virtually impossible to acquire in the US unless you have the right contacts, but if you have the right contacts, almost anything is possible in the US. Plus f.a conversions aren't really that hard.
 
There's no question that the gun culture - stemming back to the frontier spirit of the 19th century and justified, at least by gun-ownership advocates, by the Second Amendment of the Constitution - plays a major role in perpetuating the high numbers of violent deaths.

No questions, at least, in a few very small, warped "minds."
 
GOD, guns, and guts made this country free. I, for one, plan to keep all three even if it kills me.
 
better title

"Can America ever be weaned off its love affair with personal liberty?"

Well, let's hope not.

Donald Sutherland, the Canadian-born actor, once pointed out it is almost as easy to buy a gun in Canada as it is in the US, yet the incidence of gun-related deaths in Canada is dramatically lower. He argued that both countries have a frontier spirit, only that the iconic figure of the Canadian West is the Mountie - a law officer - while the iconic figure of the American West is the outlaw. Gangsters and crime syndicates have flourished in the US, and Hollywood has certainly done its bit to glamourise the empowerment of a man wielding a firearm.

Ask the Native Americans up there if they agree. And, anyway, he forgot lawman Wyatt Earp and scouts like Kit Carson and Bill Cody and Natty (Hawkeye) Bumppo, not to mention mythic figures like Shane and The Lone Ranger and the righteous slayers of evil played by John Wayne and Clint Eastwood. But what do you expect from Sutherland, he's a Canadian!!! :)

I thought the iconic figure in Canada was Pierre Trudeau, the fun-loving father of the multiculturalist manifesto.
 
Can America Ever be Weaned off its Love Affair with Guns?

Well this country's public school establishment is doing everything they can to bring this about. If today's youngsters even so much as mention guns, draw a picture of one, or point a finger at someone and say, bang! they'll be in serious trouble. Under the flag of "zero tolerance" the schools are leading the charge to eliminate any positive thoughts of guns from students minds, and punish those that don't follow along. As these children grow to adulthood it's unlikely they'll see firearms in a favorable light.

Think about it and ask yourselves, "what are schools in my area doing?" If you don't know you'd better find out.
 
Assault rifles are virtually impossible to acquire in the US unless you have the right contacts, but if you have the right contacts, almost anything is possible in the US. Plus f.a conversions aren't really that hard.

still trying to figure out what this means.

BTW, the answer is, no.
 
Did any of y'all save the "Ten Myths..." from that thread, so you could post it at sites where it might get people away from emoting and into discussing facts?

Worth doing, seems to me...

Art
 
In the US, there are roughly 17,000 murders a year, of which about 15,000 are committed with firearms.

Would it make them feel better if they was pushed out of windows? (The Archie Bunker response)


I too feel this sounds like a manufactured figure.
 
I think that we need to muzzle the media. After all if they can claim those things as facts about guns then they better also blame themselves as the article says they share responsibility.

I cannot stand journalists. :barf:
 
I don't get it:confused:. Guns made this guy think of going into an Amish school, kicking out all the adults and boys, and raping and killing a bunch of little girls??? It was an Amish school, he could have done the same thing with a butcher knife.

Before they ban guns they should ban all the smut, and kiddie porn out there. They should also ban these stupid news reporters that focus on horrible news stories 24/7. Where did this guy get the idea of barricading himself in a school and raping girls....perhaps from the wall to wall coverage of the a similar incident in Colorado.
 
I don't have any links to this but, several months ago, the United Nations published some sort of report on violence. It said that a person is safer in New York City than in London. The most violent city was Glasgow, Scotland.

So much for gun control reducing violence!
 
Where did this guy get the idea of barricading himself in a school and raping girls....perhaps from the wall to wall coverage of the a similar incident in Colorado.
The more coverage, the more copycats. They WANT that.
 
Someone ought to approach these newspapers from a business standpoint and tell them to stop paying for articles that are exactly the same as the ones before. They usually throw in a new clever title, but with "Weaning America off its Love Affair with Guns," Andrew Gumbel didn't even bother to do that!

SigfanUSAF said:
Well this country's public school establishment is doing everything they can to bring this about. If today's youngsters even so much as mention guns, draw a picture of one, or point a finger at someone and say, bang! they'll be in serious trouble.... Think about it and ask yourselves, "what are schools in my area doing?" If you don't know you'd better find out.
My sister goes to private school and prints out digital pictures of herself shooting at the range to use as a cover for her 3-ring binders. One of her friends found out and gave her a little plastic Glock charm to put on her keychain (don't panic, it's only an inch long). I thought a teacher would mention something, but I guess zero tolerance only exists at public schools. I still think some frantic parent will see it one day and "voice their concerns" to the administration. We'll see.
 
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