Can I use 335 Hodgdon for reloading 9mm rounds?
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No, way too slow burning for conventional handgun loads. H-335 is more appropriate for small to medium rifle cartridges, like .223 Rem., .30-30 Win and .308 Win. For 9mm, more appropriate powders would be W-231/HP-38, Bullseye, Unique, Accurate No.2 or Titegroup, among others. Suggest you invest in a loading manual or two, or at least visit Hodgdon’s website for reloading data.
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This is the internet remember, you should consult manufacturers published data first. Good luck.
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Sounds like a case of "all that was left on the shelf". As others noted, its too slow. Not enough volume in a 9mm case to put enough 335 into it.
HS-7 is the slowest powder I have used with success in 9mm and on my list of burn rates there are 32 other slower before getting to H335.
Use the powder as an excuse to get a 6mm ppc, after all you don't want it to go to waste.
HS-7 is the slowest powder I have used with success in 9mm and on my list of burn rates there are 32 other slower before getting to H335.
Use the powder as an excuse to get a 6mm ppc, after all you don't want it to go to waste.
Charlie98
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Actually, it's a very good 5.56mm powder... it's what I've used for almost 30 years...
Jim Watson
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No, it's the other way 'round. There is always a reason, but it is not necessarily an excuse.
Better to ask if you don't know or have any doubts.
And I second 2ndtimer's suggestion regarding purchasing a manual or two. In the grand scheme of things, they really aren't that expensive. And they do cover many reloading topics, including proper powder selection.
And I second 2ndtimer's suggestion regarding purchasing a manual or two. In the grand scheme of things, they really aren't that expensive. And they do cover many reloading topics, including proper powder selection.
Or even study, not just read, a digital version of more than one reloading manual available to anyone savvy enough on how to use the internet to post here.
Like this spot for example.
http://marvinstuart.com/firearm/Manuals/Reloading/Reloading Manuals/
Speer #12, Lyman 44th & 48th editions, Lee second edition (read t least one f the others first before the Lee manual), plus some non-brand specific books available in that directory.
No, these aren't the most recent editions but H335 isn't a new proplellant, and the fundamentals are still solid. And plenty of folks here that enjoy helping answer questions.
There are ways to expand beyond "all that was left on the shelf" as well. This thread's been ongoing since March 9, 2013 as one example. The last pages have the most recent posts.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...mponents-available-these-days.707473/page-218
Like this spot for example.
http://marvinstuart.com/firearm/Manuals/Reloading/Reloading Manuals/
Speer #12, Lyman 44th & 48th editions, Lee second edition (read t least one f the others first before the Lee manual), plus some non-brand specific books available in that directory.
No, these aren't the most recent editions but H335 isn't a new proplellant, and the fundamentals are still solid. And plenty of folks here that enjoy helping answer questions.
There are ways to expand beyond "all that was left on the shelf" as well. This thread's been ongoing since March 9, 2013 as one example. The last pages have the most recent posts.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...mponents-available-these-days.707473/page-218
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AJC1
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Your manual link is not working for me???
Fixed it. There's a space that requires I use the hyperlink function to work properly. Using copy & paste the forum software interprets everything following the space as plain text.
It's not exactly "my" link FWIW. It appears to belong to an individual or business entity named marvin stuart.
AJC1
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I was going to grab the lee manual as I own and read all the rest except berger
Go up 1 directory level and check out the other material available in the multiple directories. Discontinued MidwayUSA cartridge load maps are one series of items.
Average Joe
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In one word, NO !
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You certainly could not get a load that would cycle a semi-auto action, but theoretically, one could probably make a useable load. Some of the old manuals...1960's old...showed some powders for .38 and .357 that were WAY too slow. IMR 4895 was listed as I recall. I'm sure ballistics would be erratic at best, but should be doable, if you favor 500fps or so from a 115 fmj. The safe answer is don't do it, but my scientific curiosity may get the best of me this weekend.
AJC1
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The old cartridges have a ton of extra room. 357 45colt are two that come to mind. Both of those are lever and revolver so cycling is not a problem. I experiment within the book loads I can find, and I have enough different cartridges to keep me busy.
LiveLife
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As others already posted, no.
Faster burning pistol powders:
E3 - Competition - Nitro 100 - N310 - Ba10
No. 2 - Bullseye - Clays - WST - Red Dot/Promo - 700X - TiteGroup - Target - Solo 1000 - Am. Select - International - Trail Boss - PB - N320 - Sport Pistol - Ba9 1/2
No. 5 - W231/HP-38 - Zip - Green Dot - SR7625 - N32C - A1 - W244
Slower burning pistol powders:
Unique - Universal - BE-86 - Power Pistol - WSF - N330 - Ba9
HS6 - AutoComp - CFE Pistol - Long Shot - Herco - 800X - True Blue - N340 - 3N37 - A0
No. 7 - SR4756 - Blue Dot - N350 - Ba7 1/2
No. 9 - Enforcer - W296/H110 - 2400 - Steel - SR4759 - H4227 - Lil'Gun - 3N38 - Ba6 1/2
E3 - Competition - Nitro 100 - N310 - Ba10
No. 2 - Bullseye - Clays - WST - Red Dot/Promo - 700X - TiteGroup - Target - Solo 1000 - Am. Select - International - Trail Boss - PB - N320 - Sport Pistol - Ba9 1/2
No. 5 - W231/HP-38 - Zip - Green Dot - SR7625 - N32C - A1 - W244
Slower burning pistol powders:
Unique - Universal - BE-86 - Power Pistol - WSF - N330 - Ba9
HS6 - AutoComp - CFE Pistol - Long Shot - Herco - 800X - True Blue - N340 - 3N37 - A0
No. 7 - SR4756 - Blue Dot - N350 - Ba7 1/2
No. 9 - Enforcer - W296/H110 - 2400 - Steel - SR4759 - H4227 - Lil'Gun - 3N38 - Ba6 1/2
Above are groupings of faster to slower burn rate usable pistol powders by "relative" similar burn rate for common/popular calibers. H335 is simply too slow to be used as 9mm pistol powder - https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/2020-burn-rate-chart.pdf
For 9mm 115 gr bullet, I would recommend using No. 2 - Bullseye - Clays - WST - Red Dot/Promo - 700X - TiteGroup - Target - Solo 1000 - Am. Select - N320 - Sport Pistol - Ba9 1/2 - No. 5 - W231/HP-38 - Zip - Green Dot - W244 - Unique - Universal - BE-86 - Power Pistol - WSF - N330 - Ba9 - HS6 - AutoComp - CFE Pistol - Long Shot - Herco - N340
I have used Bullseye, Clays, WST, Red Dot/Promo, Titegroup, Target, N320, Sport Pistol, Ba9 1/2, W231/HP-38, Green Dot, W244, Unique, Universal, BE-86, Power Pistol, WSF, HS-6, AutoComp, CFE Pistol, Herco and N340 for 9mm.
I like Bullseye, WST, Red Dot/Promo, Titegroup, Target, N320, Sport Pistol, W231/HP-38 for lighter target loads and BE-86/WSF for higher velocity loads.
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ArchAngelCD
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Like said above, H335 is way too slow. H335 is a rifle class powder, not a handgun powder.
The powder company sites have a lot of useful info on what powder is good for what.
Hodgdon Pistol Powder
Hodgdon Rifle Powder
H-335
Hodgdon Pistol Powder
Hodgdon Rifle Powder
H-335
I know a guy who used to experiment with Mil-surp powders. Sometimes he would find something usable. Which might explain the 44mag round that he launched out of a lever action at the range one day - hit the ground running about 10 yards downrange and into the backstop at 25yds like an angry little bowling ball. It was quite funny at the time.
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