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I've seen enough reviews on the TP9SA that I would feel comfortable throwing the money at it...but for me, its a range gun at best

maybe home defense since its an acceptable financial loss

i wouldnt carry one though

-Matt S.
 
I've seen enough reviews on the TP9SA that I would feel comfortable throwing the money at it...but for me, its a range gun at best

maybe home defense since its an acceptable financial loss

i wouldnt carry one though

-Matt S.
Why?
 
I had a C-100 and found it to be a good, dependable gun for the price. Fit & finish was better than one might expect for the price. I traded it for something that fit my hand better, but that was just a personal opinion. I felt the C-100 was an excellent value.
 
The reviews on the TP9SA seem to be uniformly positive, and J&G sales has them for $299 + a $25 rebate from century. I'd be tempted if I was in the market.
 
since I already have one, please send me 2,000 rounds of any 9mm ammo and I will do famous "torture test" for you free of charge !
I will email you my findings .
;)
 
Some don't like the idea of a decocker on an SAO carry pistol. The decocker on the TP9SA isn't something that is easily engaged accidentally. However, Canik offers the TP9V2 that adds a very acceptable double action trigger while still maintaining a very nice single action pull.

Both my TP9SA and TP9V2 have proven flawless with all JHPs I've used. I plan on OWB carry of the TP9V2 this winter. Knowing I have 19 rounds of Federal 124gr HST at the ready with another 18 round mag in tow is a comfort.

However, until jacket weather comes around, I'll stick with my equally reliable 6+1 CM9.
 
Some don't like the idea of a decocker on an SAO carry pistol.

Its not just having a decocker on an SA pistol, its the combo of it being a decocker on striker-fired pistol.

The CZ 75b SA is obviously single action, if it had a decocker that wouldn't be so bad since you'd just have to pull back the hammer. Having to cycle the slide to get the gun back in action is what bothers people.

I don't see what the big deal is, the decocker just gives you some options, with most striker fired pistols you have a live trigger or you have an unloaded pistol. With the TP9SA you can have a round in the chamber but not have a live trigger - its just an option.
 
Why do people equate inexpensive with low quality? We're talking injection molded plastic (the industry in which I work), CNC machining, and simple designs. These are not new technology nor expensive technology. Sure, there may be shortcuts taken in these clones, some QC issues because a dull bit wasn't replaced, but bigger names with more expensive guns seem to have the same QC issues.

The R&D was done on these pistols by someone else, on someone else's dime and time. So clones and copies of expired patents (or altered enough so as not to infringe on existing ones) can be done with relatively less expense. Buying used tooling and fixing/ altering it is far less expensive than designing and manufacturing new tooling. I work with tooling for Ford, Chrysler and GM (as well as several other automotive manufacturers), repairing old tooling, or redesigning old tools to run newly designed parts is a large part of the industry and is a major cost saver. I'm sure gun manufacturers are smart enough to alter their tooling to a new design, or sell off old tooling to recoup costs.

The new upstart manufacturer can better afford older, used tooling rather than new tooling. Hence the Taurus PT92, being made on old Beretta tooling. A PT 92, one of Taurus' most reliable guns, brand new is still going to be cheaper than a Beretta 92, also brand new, on the next shelf over.

I wonder if the people who buy the CZ rather than the Canik clone drive a Buick rather than a Chevy. Same parts, same tooling, minor cosmetic changes, and the Chevy has a cheaper price tag despite being made on 90% of the same tooling, side by side with the Buick.
 
Regarding the Canik TP9SA, how do you folks deal with the decocker on a single action trigger? Personally, that's not something I want on my gun, unless it has an external hammer I can physically manipulate (even that isn't ideal).

One of the last things I want in a home defense gun, carry gun, even a range gun is a quick and easy way to take the gun out of the gun fight.
 
USAF_Vet, it bothered me enough that I didn't consider it as something I'd consider carrying. I don't see the decocker on the TP9SA being accidentally pressed, but I had to admit the potential was there.

It led me to purchase the TP9V2, which eliminates any concerns I had about the decocker. It shares the same awesome SA trigger pull which makes the TP9SA seemingly so accurate but incorporates a very usable DA trigger as well. The DA pull on my TP9V2 is on the long side, but feels light and smooth. I have no problem keeping the sights on target during the DA pull. It's easily one of the better DA triggers IMO.

The only external difference between the two is the shorter barrel (4" for the V2, 4.5" on the SA) and the trigger no longer has the Glock-esque trigger saftey. My TP9V2 has so far proven just as reliable as my TP9SA, both haven't had a single hiccup of any kind.

I'm keeping the TP9SA as a fun range pistol, but I do intend on carrying the TP9V2 when winter comes.
They say winter is coming. ;)

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The decocker can be easily (and reversibly) disabled with about ten minutes of time and you can retain the excellent SA trigger. The instructions (with pictures) are available in detail on the internet. Now you guys that already have a TP9SA can feel confident in carrying them. The SF model, which has a SAO trigger and no decocker is supposed to be coming to the US early next year.
 
A TP9DA?

A double action version of the TP9SA has indeed been in the works and it debuted at the 2015 Shot Show as the TP9V2, the very pistol I wrote about in post #35.

Perhaps there really is a TP9DA in the works that will be a DAO, but then it wouldn't need a decocker as it could never be cocked. The TP9V2 is double action/single action.

As for the (reversible) deactivation of the decocker for the TP9SA, I believe I will go ahead and do just that. I cannot think of any reason I would ever use the decocker on my TP9SA, so this sounds like the reasonable thing to do. Thanks for the head's-up!
 
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I stick with guns that have a track rescored over time. IMO you really can't judge a gun until you have had it for a while. I always felt at ease with a Glock, XD, PPQ, M&P, "you get the picture". Give it a year and we'll see. I want a gun I can be sure can sit in the "wherever" for 5 years and shoot when I need it to.
 
I tend to share with that concern of longevity, but the thing here is that the TP9SA or TP9V2 are improved versions of the TP9 (similar to what the XDm is to the XD). The TP9 was inspired and a near clone of the Walther P99 (which has been around for a while).

Many folks who purchased the Canik TP9 when it first came out in 2012 have put thousands of trouble free rounds through them. For me, the grip was unacceptable. That changed with the SA and V2 models came out.
 
The TP9 and variations are plenty proven for me. They have been available for more than a year and the reviews are all overwhelmingly positive. You want to wait longer, go ahead. I've seen and read enough that I'm comfortable buying.

The TP9SA is by far my favorite variations, and I've shot them all. None of them are something I would consider for CCW, so the decocker poses no problem to me. I keep the TP9SA as a dedicated nightstand gun. In thehome, I don't expect to allow any intruder within more than 7 to 8 feet from me so I don't forsee a situation that would inadvertently decock the pistol.
 
The Canik factory builds their guns to military specs and hold several impressive certifications concerning longevity. Look into them deeper, they're solid. They're also warrantied for life.
 
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