Can't CCW up North, so what do I bring?

[Saiga39]

I'm driving up to New England with the family for a wedding and since I my CCW isn't recognized and I want to be a law abiding citizen, I wondering what you all would recommend to keep in the car in case we break down on the highway in the middle of the night??

The past two trips I did in fact bring my handgun and kept it on the spare tire area but I want to be legal.

 

[orionengnr]

Depends where in New England you will be. I believe a New Hampshire non-resident permit is recognised in several NE states. Sure is easy to get one, too.

 

[RevolvingCylinder]

If you avoid the socialist utopia states of New England you can still carry. I will be going to Vermont soon where CCW permits are not recognized. There carrying concealed or openly is a RIGHT. New Hampshire and Maine are shall issue. These three states are the only part of New England that I willingly spend time in.

 

[Saiga39]

Unfortunately I'm heading to Connecticut.

 

[nhhillbilly]

Non resident

Ct. is a shall issue non resident state. You can get a carry permit for that state.

 

[gunsmith]

one of those

big cans of pepper spray used for grizzly

 

[RevolvingCylinder]

You can legally have a sidearm within the car(except locked and unloaded). If you want a CCW permit you should apply 8 weeks in advance(the allotted time issuing authority has to approve/deny).

 

[Saiga39]

I've been looking a the Safe Passage Law. The way I'm reading it, I would need a CT permit. Really I'm not planning on taking it out of the car.

 

[mbt2001]

Can of pepper spray too

 

[Rexster]

Surefire M3 Millenium. I work big-city night-shift police patrol, and it's more important to me than my firearms when it's dark outside. Look at the laws regarding OC spray, knives, and long guns, too. Many jurisdictions will be surprisingly accomodating toward unloaded long guns in vehicles. For a break-down along a rural highway, one or more family members can wait off the road a short distance, concealed by darkness from anyone who stops, whether friend or foe.

 

[anotherKevin]

I bought myself a "tire thumper". I keep it in the cab of my truck along with a printout of case law showing a case thrown out because a tire thumper was "not a weapon", and a printout of a local (CA) school district bus checking instructions! Yes, if a school district says you should use one, it can't be a weapon.

Sometimes the vagueness of the law is what makes it frustrating.

 

[ready4shtf]

Just in case pepper spray is banned too, a nice big can of RAID wasp spray works pretty darn good too. less suspicious too.

 

[yhtomit]

anotherKevin wrote:

"I bought myself a "tire thumper". I keep it in the cab of my truck along with a printout of case law showing a case thrown out because a tire thumper was "not a weapon", and a printout of a local (CA) school district bus checking instructions! Yes, if a school district says you should use one, it can't be a weapon".

Other Kevin:

- What case is that you're referring to (with the tire thumper)? That sounds like one I'd also like to have a printout of (but depending on the jurisdiction, it might not be directly useful to me ...)

- Could you clarify the part about "bus checking instructions"? Are the drivers told to keep the thumper with them when checking the outside of the bus, for possible defensive use?

timothy

 

[steveracer]

Bring a shotgun.

I can't imagine you'd need much more gun than a 12ga up there. I have an 870 in the vehicle every time I go North.
Steve

 

[stevemis]

How about a baseball bat, a couple of baseballs and a glove? I always carry the latter when carrying the former.

 

[Jim K]

Under the Federal law, you can legally transport a firearm from a state where it is legal to another state where it is legal, even if you go through a state where it is not legal. But that involves a gun that is unloaded and not in reach of anyone in the vehicle. Further, in some states (NY, NJ) if the gun is found you will be arrested and you can tell the DA all about the federal law because the police have been told to make an arrest, regardless. In MD if the gun is unloaded and out of reach, you should be OK, but again a police officer may see it differently.

As to having a loaded gun on your person, or in the car and in reach, no law protects you in most states if you don't have a CCW for, or recognized in, that state. In reality, if you exercise discretion, don't violate laws (speeding, etc.), don't shoot at cop cars or give the radar cop the finger, you can probably get away with carrying about anything, but you will be taking a risk. That will be your choice.

P.S. In spite of other advice, ranting and raving about your "rights" and screaming to a cop about the Second Amendment will be more, not less, likely to earn you a trip to a motel with bars.

Jim

 

[HiWayMan]

a cell phone and a single shot shotgun.

 

[obxned]

Just say 'No', and come enjoy our beaches!

 

[romma]

Woa! Were Da love at?? He can get a CT out of state permit... Or pepper spray...

 

[anotherKevin]

yhtomit:

Here's the original case in CA

Here is the resolution (best I could find, sorry, it's quoted in a forum, the following case is much clearer and well documented)

Here's another case, in Missouri where the thumper was dismissed as a weapon

Here's the instructions for checking a school bus. No mention is made of the thumper as a weapon