Cantilever Barrel for 10/22 Takedown

[weblance]

Im not happy with my 10/22 Takedown returning to zero after dis/reassembly. I have tried all different adjustments on the locking ring, and I just feel that the Takedown is a plinker in factory condition, but I am trying to get repeatable pinpoint accuracy from it. I have decided to try one of the cantilever barrels, either the Volquartsen, or the Adaptive Tactical Tac-Hammer. Can anyone give me first hand experience with either?

Based on previous experience with Volquartsen products, Im sure the VQ barrel is a winner, but I like the Tac-Hammer because it looks like the rail is longer, allowing for mounting a scope farther back.

Im pretty sure with a scope on a cantilever barrel, the barrel will no longer fit in the Takedown bag, because it will be too long, but I'm not concerned about that.

 

[weblance]

Volquartsen Barrel Range Report

Ok... I had the chance today to shoot my new Volquartsen 10/22 Takedown barrel with cantilever mount. I mounted a Simmons 22 Mag 3x9 AO scope just for this test. I will eventually grab a Nikon Prostaff Rimfire scope, but I have had the Simmons for four years, and have never tried it, so on it went. Test ammo was Gemtech Silencer Subsonic, Wolf Match Extra, CCI Standard Velocity, and Winchester Subsonic 42MAX. I dis/reassembled the rifle after each shot. The rifle was rested on a front bag. The rifle is stock, with the exception of a KIDD Trigger Job Kit, and the auto bolt release mod. All shots were through a SilencerCo Stainless Steel Sparrow.

The first pic is 10 shots to the center with Gemtech Silencer Subsonic at 25 yards, the 4 corner shots are CCI SV. The three shots at the top center are from my Buckmark pistol as I was adjusting its red dot.

The second pic is 10 shots to the center with Wolf Match Extra at 25 yards, the 4 corner shots are Winchester Subsonic 42MAX. I pulled the upper left corner shot, or that target would have been perfect.

The third pic is 3 shots at 50 yards, with Wolf Match Extra, taking the rifle apart after every shot.

I am very happy with this barrel/mount. It appears to shoot all the brands of ammo I had today equally well, with the Wolf Match Extra showing the best groups. It solves the problem I was having with the rifle not going back to point of aim with a receiver mounted scope after dis/reassembly. It is also exceptionally accurate. If you have a 10/22 Takedown and aren't happy with its performance, I think the Volquartsen barrel is the answer.

A quick comment about the Simmons scope. It did a very good job. It adjusted easily with its target turrets, and was quickly on target. I purposely shot it at 50 yards while changing the magnification, and it never changed its zero. It may have earned a permanent place on this rifle.

 

[smogmage]

But doesn't that defeat the entire point of the take down?

 

[4thPointOfContact]

Not as long as it still reduces overall length. It just doesn't do it as much as not having the cantilevered mount.

 

[weblance]

It allows me to take the rifle out of my house, in view of my neighbors, and the case doesn't scream GUN !!

 

[Jim Watson]

"The rifle is stock."
Funny man.

 

[danez71]

Weblance, what is that case for? It kind of looks like a tennis racket case but its not quite the normal shape for it.


Ive occasional use a case for a ukulele for a SxS coach 12ga. Similar to this one - then I added some card board to keep its shaped better. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...e=&network=g&gclid=CISXtc6J7s0CFVNqfgodfSoLww

 

[jmorris]

Jim he meant stock except of trigger, auto bolt release, barrel, stock forend, suppressor, scope and mounts.

Looks like he has it the way he wants it though.

 

[weblance]

"The rifle is stock."
Funny man.

What I meant was there has been no work done to the action, other than replacing a terrible gritty 8 lb trigger.

Weblance, what is that case for?

Its a Blackhawk! Diversion rifle case. It has a divider inside that runs the full length. It has one large outside pocket. Its 28" long and is exactly the size and shape of a Wilson tennis racket case. I bought it for my Kel-Tec SU-16C, and like it enough, I bought a second one for my 10/22 Takedown.

I don't care if I ever use the Ruger supplied Takedown bag, I'm not using this rifle for a bug out survival tool. I do want it to hit what its pointed at, and it wasn't doing that with a receiver mounted optic

 

[jmorris]

What would you take for the Ruger bag? I could use another one.

 

[bannockburn]

weblance

Its a Blackhawk! Diversion rifle case. It has a divider inside that runs the full length. It has one large outside pocket. Its 28" long and is exactly the size and shape of a Wilson tennis racket case.

Great disguise! Probably could double as a mandolin case as well, on the off chance there's no tennis courts nearby. Then you could just tell everyone that: "I'm with the band".

 

[savit260]

How long is the barrel/scope combo minus the suppressor ? I like the looks of that set up but need to stay under 25 inches.

 

[wally]

I think if accuracy is really important to you the take-down probably should be off the table. OTOH, yours is shooting more than good enough for most purposes.


Here are some 50ft NRA targets shot at 50yds with a variety of ammo types, 10 shot groups:

Its a about $200 worth of "upgrades" in 2005, CDNN sale -- $100 barrel, $49 Hogue stock and $60 BSA scope, stock trigger, but well "worn in" (the stock trigger was likely better in circa 1995 when I first bought it, details are here in the original thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=131138

I'm certainly in the camp that a "cheap" scope can be really nice on a .22lr.

Thanks for the post, I've been thinking about a take-down for use with my Sparrow, probably would have bought one by now if .22lr ammo was closer to what its availability
was in 2005. Nice tip about the cantilever barrel, but it probably adds more cost than I'd be willing to put in to it, but drilling and tapping the factory barrel for a rail and using an AR cantilever mount "backwards" is something I might try if I ever give in to the urge for a take-down and I'm not happy with its return to zero after re-assembly.

Not as long as it still reduces overall length. It just doesn't do it as much as not having the cantilevered mount.

What about using QD rings? Makes for a nice "Hollywood" setup -- open the bag, put the rifle together, screw on the suppressor and mount the scope