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I have a gun that was left to me by my father when he died. I doesn't have a military stock on it but has been sporterized. the serial number is only 3 digits so i figure its early production. the mechanics of the gun are shiny new. i want to use it to hunt and shoot targets at distance. its a short barrel so I'm assuming its a model 38(?). can someone give me an idea of what i got? and how to procede with making this a nice match rifle? thanks:cool:
 
If it's been sporterized it's most likely just a cut-down Mauser 96. I had one from the same manufacturer year 1909; I ended up trading it for a nice saxophone, but I wish I still had it. Swede Mausers are very nice.
 
Post some pics of it. If it's umolested except for the stock being cut up, I'd just find another stock and restore to the original config. This is a match rifle in the CMP/DCM sense (which is what it's best suited for).
 
You don't have a 3 digit serial number . The 3 digits you see are the last 3 numbers of the actual serial number on the left side of the receiver. That serial number will be preceded by 2 letters which are the initials of the inspector at that time. On an unaltered Swede rifle, you should find those numbers in about 18 places.

Walt
 
i got pics on my comp but trying to figure out how to post them since its asking for a url
 
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still trying... think i got it well 4 any how. the pic with 2 guns is to compare to a remington 10/22
 

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oh heck ya love the gun but the stock is way to short for me. i wamt a new stock. i figured if its sportorized already then i want a synthetic one. but then some one mentioned returning it back to its original configuration wich i would be all for. i have a garand and a carbine in there original form so this would be a plus. just need to know where to go for parts
 
It is most likely a 96 Swedish Mauser chambered in 6.5 X55. I have a 1917 Garl Gustav that i absolutely love. They are great shooters and the 6.5 swede is an all around perfect cartridge.
 
If the barrel is 23.5 inches long. Measured from the front of a closed bolt, then it is a m/38 rifle which was made from an earlier m/96 rifle. The original m/38 rifles were converted m/96s. Both have a rifling twist of 1 in 200mm.
A shorter 17 inch barrel would have been a m/94 carbine.

The KB by the serial number stands for Konrad August Berglund who was born in 1869.
He was a captain in the 5th Swedish Artillery and he was the inspector at CG from April 1902 until September 1905.

It looks like she still has her original sights and if it has not been drilled and tapped for a scope, you could find a replacement military stock on Gun Boards Swede military collectors site and maybe rebuild her to original military trim.

We need some better photos taken which some light. The rear sight and the top of the action...

Is there an [ SA] stamped anywhere on the receiver ring?

On the bolt, is the crown stamp upright or tilted slightly??? Does the bolt serial number match the action??
 
i don't see an "sa" anyware on the rifle. i measured the barrel and it does measure out to 17 inches. ummmmmm is that good?? or bad?:confused: all numbers match on the rifle ie. everything matches the last 3 of the serial number and they got it stamped EVERYWARE!! the crown is streight up and down on the bolt
 

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Yep that's a Swedish Mauser. Looks like someone cut down the barrel. Its not worth all that much with what has been done to it. But swede's are fine shooters. Shoot it and enjoy it my friend.
 
i don't see an "sa" anyware on the rifle. i measured the barrel and it does measure out to 17 inches. ummmmmm is that good?? or bad?:confused: all numbers match on the rifle ie. everything matches the last 3 of the serial number and they got it stamped EVERYWARE!! the crown is streight up and down on the bolt
From that last set of pictures, that is what is left of a m/94-14, it could be put back in full military dress, if someone wishes, all it needs is wood.
 
You are being side tracked !! That's fine though. We don't see many of these. People that know way more have posted. Seems to be an original 1894 Carbine with the stock barrel. So, except for the stock, you have a nice, but not necessarily rare or especially valuable weapon.

i want to use it to hunt and shoot targets at distance.

Laupa box ammo is expensive but should be accurate. It may be a little hot and loaded to modern commercial pressure, not military small ring pressure. I am sure this comment will also draw comments. If in any doubt about this, look at Alliant's reloading data where they clearly show commercial and reduced Military loads, as does the Speer Manual.

Careful and diligent handloading can take you to a new level entirely.

Welcome to the cult !!!!
 
Yes that is a m/94 carbine and the barrel is original as is the bolt. And the sights are original!!!... Heart be still....
The upright crown means it is the original CG bolt and not a later Husqvarna replacement. (Husky parts have tilted crowns. )

IF, you can find a m/94-14 or original m/94 stock then you will have a valuable carbine on your hands. The prices on m/94s and m/94-14s has sky-rocketed over the past few years...But you would need to find a butt plate and other stock hardware which would have mis-matched numbers. .


The m/94-14s were m/94s which were converted to have a bayonet lug. The action and barrel were the same, so you could go either way.

Finding an m/94 stock can be interesting...Gunboards Swede Military rifle collector site is a good place to start looking. http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?49-Swedish-Military-Firearms-Forum

Here is the m/94-14 carbine that my wife adopted for use during shooting matches. That is her with the 1907 carbine. The grand-kids are scared of her for a good reason....

The other photo shows the m/94-14 along with a Husky m/38 and a 1900 Oberndorf m/96 Swede.

My carbine...I guess it's my wife's now,,, likes the 160 grain Hornady round nose bullets or Norma, Lapua 156 grain round nose. Oddly enough they do pretty well with anything from 85 grains on up...

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Yes that is a m/94 carbine and the barrel is original as is the bolt. And the sights are original!!!... Heart be still....
The upright crown means it is the original CG bolt and not a later Husqvarna replacement. (Husky parts have tilted crowns. )

IF, you can find a m/94-14 or original m/94 stock then you will have a valuable carbine on your hands. The prices on m/94s and m/94-14s has sky-rocketed over the past few years...But you would need to find a butt plate and other stock hardware which would have mis-matched numbers. .


The m/94-14s were m/94s which were converted to have a bayonet lug. The action and barrel were the same, so you could go either way.

Finding an m/94 stock can be interesting...Gunboards Swede Military rifle collector site is a good place to start looking. http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?49-Swedish-Military-Firearms-Forum

Here is the m/94-14 carbine that my wife adopted for use during shooting matches. That is her with the 1907 carbine. The grand-kids are scared of her for a good reason....

The other photo shows the m/94-14 along with a Husky m/38 and a 1900 Oberndorf m/96 Swede.

My carbine...I guess it's my wife's now,,, likes the 160 grain Hornady round nose bullets or Norma, Lapua 156 grain round nose. Oddly enough they do pretty well with anything from 85 grains on up...

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Nice, we love em don`t we..............
 
thanks for all your input its a really big help. i contacted a sweadish army surplus site and am going to put it back to military dress. take it to matches with my m-1
 
Excellent hand me down (as it were). Good luck finding correct furniture to reboot your 94 (WHAT A FIND)... one of my grails.

A keeper for sure. You will love it.
 
You have a very nice resto project there.

I believe there is a site where members have a parts exchange, where you can find the parts needed with numbers needed. A part with those 3 numbers would have been made once for every 1000 made,yes? For an m-96 probably, but for a m-94 a needle in a haystack (wood, nosecap, barrelbands).

Good Luck.

Walt
 
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