A buddy of mine carries the UMC .45 HP's from Walmart as his carry load. I keep the UMC's in my vehicle as back up ammo for 9mm and 45. I have shot quite a bit of it in several calibers and have never had a failure. Before my buddy started carrying it, we tested it on water jugs. It outperformed his Corbon and my Golden Sabre in water. I know that it is not a technical test, but it definately looked good.