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Carry in a Bank?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Bobson, Feb 20, 2013.

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  1. Bobson

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    Earlier today, I left home to run some errands. I knew one of those errands would take me to my bank (a Phoenix branch of Chase), but I decided to carry my gun today anyway, planning to lock it up in the car for the short time I'd be inside.

    Obviously, I've been to this branch before; and I'm almost positive there used to be a "No Firearms, persuant to ARS whatever number" sign on the front door - but today there wasn't one. Is there some federal law prohibiting the carry of a firearm in a bank? I'm pretty certain the state of Arizona doesn't have a law forbidding it. I was just really surprised by the lack of a sign outside, since Arizona law specifically provides companies the lawful authority to make the call themselves.

    To be clear, I decided to be safe and left my firearm in my vehicle. I wanted to ask the banker about it, but didn't want him to somehow perceive my question as some sort of threat. Maybe I'll call tomorrow and ask over the phone.
     
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  2. wrs840

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    I don't think there's any Federal prohibition. You can carry in a bank in NC as long as it's not posted against firearms exactly to the regulation (which allows private businesses to prohibit firearms/weapons and specifies how it is to be posted). If their posting does not meet regulation (size/verbage/colors/placing) you are not in violation of law but you must leave the premises if asked to.

    Any bank that posts against does not get my business and I tell them exactly that and why.
     
  3. Outlaw Man

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    I believe there is a law against carrying in a Federal Reserve Bank, but don't quote me on that. Otherwise, I would treat it like any other business unless there's a specific state law.

    I sent a letter to the President of my previous bank explaing that their new signs were the reason I was pulling my money from his bank. I didn't get a response, but I'm not exactly going to break the bank by leaving.
     
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    An actual federal reserve yes, fed property. Not to be confused with xyz federal bank, just a name nothing to do with the government. I carry at my bank's off base branch all the time, not prohibited in FL. Other states differ I'm sure.
     
  5. Teachu2

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    Never a problem at my bank or credit union.
     
  6. TonyDedo

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    What good is a carry gun if you have to leave it in your car when you walk into a building that's a target for armed robbery?

    Concealed means concealed.
     
  7. Bobson

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    Good answers folks. I'll definitely call the branch and speak with a manager tomorrow to get the final word. Will be extremely pleased if carry is allowed there.
     
  8. Reefinmike

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    As a ~1 year permit holder and lifetime ohio resident, Im happy with Ohio firearm laws. Ive only seen three gun buster signs on non government buildings. One an eatery which I no longer patronize, one my dads office with non compliant signage thats not even present on all doors(something with the office group association and lastly a newly discovered one on the side entrance door of a caddy dealers service bay. I went through the unmarked garage door in the vehicle so im good to go, right :D . I havent spotted any signs at banks in the area and even ran into an employee at the bank that recognized me from the local range and we talked range talk, reloading, casting and our choice of ccw at the moment.

    Its beating the dead horse, but anyone that thinks a sign will stop a dangerous person is delusional.
     
  9. TonyDedo

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    If I called up a bank manager and asked if I could carry a gun into the bank, and he said "yes," I think I would <removed>.
     
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  10. Alaska444

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    Sorry, Federal Reserve Banks are privately owned banks that are not federal at all. Most folks do not understand the con job against the American public that the Fed actually is. It is a privately owned bank that tells our government what to do. Go figure and thanks to my "favorite" president for this mess and the income tax act to boot.

    http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm
     
  11. garymc

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    Some banks in Missouri are posted and some aren't. You might think they'd all be against it, but think of a small town bank that has the jewelry store owner as a customer (or the pawn/gun store owner.) I bank at US Bank and I've never seen one of them posted.
     
  12. Davek1977

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    I routinely carry in the bank I do business at. There is no federal law, nor state law in SD prohibiting it.
     
  13. Centurian22

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    In Maine I asked two different branches of my bank in town (TD Bank) and got polar lay different answers. The first, while closer to my house I've never cared for the service and their answer didn't help: "there is no policy against it but we'd really prefer if you didn't". The second which has always treated me right and continues to recieve my business said "we have no problem with it at all and encourage any form of legal carry" (for Maine this can be open with or without permit or concealed with permit).

    Look forward to hearing how your throne call goes.
     
  14. Sergei Mosin

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    Nebraska also prohibits carry in financial institutions. Don't know about other states.
     
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    Thanks Alaska. You are correct. Federal Reserve is a corporate name. The banksters are not Federal and have no reserve. My kid's name is Marshall but he didn't get a badge or a gun. I suspect that the FR banks are posted and well armed just in case the govt ever does audit them and informs we the people what happened over the last century.
     
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    Ditto here in Arkansas. Some banks post, others do not. I don't do business with those that post.

    I used to do business with a firm with an office on the second floor of one of the tall buildings in downtown Little Rock. A bank had facilities in the lobby, and the door nearest the facilities was posted. But none of the other doors were posted, so I presumed the bank was responsible for the one door that was posted, not the building owners. So I'd walk around the corner, and come in through a door that wasn't posted. I'd still end up walking right past the bank facilities on my way to an escalator to the second floor. But I imagine a bank robber wouldn't take the time to go around the corner. Yeah, those signs do a lot of good. :banghead:
     
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    I carry CC at my BOA all the time here in NOVA. They are none the wiser.
    Some lady made me take off my motorcycle helmet while I was using the ATM though. It was 20* outside and its a PITA in gloves.

    I OC at my local PNC (they have the coin counter :)) They either don't notice or don't care.

    No federal law against it, but some silly 'corporate policies' may have them put a sign up. Just make sure to know if the sign holds force of law in your state (30-06 sign, etc)
     
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    You should have asked the question. Does the bank have a policy of no carry inside?
    In fact you could have called that question. Now your still wondering.
     
  19. Kristensdaddy

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    Bank carry

    There is NO federal regulation concerning carry in a commercial bank. State law may vary, bank policy may vary but there is no fed rule. Look up the Bank Security Act of 1968. That one page law is the be-all and end-all of bank security regulations.

    Federal Reserve Banks are not somewhere you are going to do any banking business. You may go on a tour of a facility but there is no banking business that an individual will do.

    Just try to get into a FRB. Armed security at the gate (M-4's), you have to give your car make and model, and tag number when making an appointment to visit. It is an entirely different concept that a regular bank.

    By the way, you can visit the Federal Reserve Bank of NY but considering that it is NYC you won't be carrying anyway. If you ever go there be sure to take the tour of the Gold Vaults.
     
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    Funny enough while I've never seen a gun related notice at any PNC in PA (or NYC for that matter lol), I have seen notices in both areas asking patrons to removes caps, hoods, etc when entering the bank.

    Though apparently criminals do follow the rules some times lol
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/19/ohio-bank-robber-lowers-hood_n_864138.html

    I can actually understand the request as it does allow for early threat detection and/or discourage people (who aren't morons) from concealing their face...though the non-moron's are in theory quicker to be noticed.

    I've always wondered if any states with House of Worship bans may forgot to extend the term beyond Churches. Considering how badly gun laws can be written I wouldn't be surprised.
     
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    Since Ohio law stipulates neither format nor wording of "no guns" signs, there is no such thing as "compliance" nor "non-compliance". The words "no guns" written in crayon on a napkin would be completely legal.
     
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    PNC doesn't care. When my local branch posted a sign a couple years ago, I contacted the president of PNC. That sign disappeared a couple days later and I got an apologetic email from one of PNC's VPs.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. I think it was my CHCL instructor that first told me that. As ther are none here, it hasn't been that critical to me. Good to know, though.
     
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    One of the best things I was able to do as switching back to PNC from BOA a few weeks ago (it was required by a move though funny enough PNC is in NYC now right near my job). Not getting charged for a cashiers check was nice.
     
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    Oh sure thing. Good to know my ramblings on nomenclature can have actually real world use. :)
     
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