overtorque
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Alright, I sold my carry gun, bought a couple of things I wanted, and am trying to put together a new carry system. I have two guns that I'm considering carrying, but I'm having trouble deciding which to build a system around. I want to chose one and commit to it. I consider a "system" a definition of weapon, belt, holsters (I'll probably have one OWB for open/lazy-concealed carry, one IWB for deep concealed), a specific ammunition, and attachments if you use them.
The first is a Sig P229 in 40S&W with DA/SA action. It's factory refurbished (red box). It has standard sights. I have put about 100 FMJ rounds through it and haven't had any failures.
The second is a Glock 17 Gen 4 (9mm). Bought it used. Put about 100 FMJ rounds through it and also didn't have any failures (had a squib, but that's not the guns fault). It has fresh Trijicons.
For the sake of argument, assume that:
So here are my thoughts:
Magazine Capacity: Glock (17) | Sig (12)
Size: Glock | Sig (comparable grip, Sig has shorter barrel)
Thickness: Glock | Sig (slide and grip are very similar, but Sig widens out quite a bit at the top of the grip)
Weight: Glock | Sig (Not a huge factor with the right belt/holster)
Caliber: Glock (9mm) | Sig (.40S&W)
Recoil/Muzzleflip: Glock | Sig
Carry Condition: Glock (DAO no safety) | Sig (DA/SA no safety) (I'm undecided. There are arguments for each when used to carry)
Trigger: Glock (5.5lbs) | Sig (DA 10-12lbs/SA 4.5lbs) (Undecided)
Sights: Glock | Sig (Glock has night sights and .8in longer sight radius)
Other:
-I'm going to start shooting IDPA, and will be using the Glock.
-The Glock has rails if needed, the Sig doesn't.
Those are all of the things I could think of that might be relevant. I'll summarize the ones that concern me the most.
Glock 17: Has night sights and longer sight radius, higher mag capacity, low recoil, and I'll be using it for IDPA.
Sig P229: More potent caliber. Smaller. Crisper trigger (once in SA), but has snappier recoil.
Shooting cheap FMJ in each gun, there is noticeably more recoil in the Sig. Will the perceived recoil between the two be less once I start shooting high quality personal defense rounds in each (+P for the 9mm)?
I know you can train to improve your follow-up shots in any caliber, but can you ever train away the gap between .40 and 9mm? In other words, can you be good enough that the difference in recoil between the two has little to no affect on your performance?
There's a lot to think about. My decision won't be determined only by this poll, but I'd like to get y'alls opinion on it, and take away some food for thought.
The first is a Sig P229 in 40S&W with DA/SA action. It's factory refurbished (red box). It has standard sights. I have put about 100 FMJ rounds through it and haven't had any failures.
The second is a Glock 17 Gen 4 (9mm). Bought it used. Put about 100 FMJ rounds through it and also didn't have any failures (had a squib, but that's not the guns fault). It has fresh Trijicons.
For the sake of argument, assume that:
- I will practice regularly with the gun I chose.
- I will run my JHP through it to ensure they feed reliably
- I will be carrying concealed, lazy-concealed, and open, depending on the weather/situation.
- Buying/trading-for a different gun is not an option
So here are my thoughts:
Magazine Capacity: Glock (17) | Sig (12)
Size: Glock | Sig (comparable grip, Sig has shorter barrel)
Thickness: Glock | Sig (slide and grip are very similar, but Sig widens out quite a bit at the top of the grip)
Weight: Glock | Sig (Not a huge factor with the right belt/holster)
Caliber: Glock (9mm) | Sig (.40S&W)
Recoil/Muzzleflip: Glock | Sig
Carry Condition: Glock (DAO no safety) | Sig (DA/SA no safety) (I'm undecided. There are arguments for each when used to carry)
Trigger: Glock (5.5lbs) | Sig (DA 10-12lbs/SA 4.5lbs) (Undecided)
Sights: Glock | Sig (Glock has night sights and .8in longer sight radius)
Other:
-I'm going to start shooting IDPA, and will be using the Glock.
-The Glock has rails if needed, the Sig doesn't.
Those are all of the things I could think of that might be relevant. I'll summarize the ones that concern me the most.
Glock 17: Has night sights and longer sight radius, higher mag capacity, low recoil, and I'll be using it for IDPA.
Sig P229: More potent caliber. Smaller. Crisper trigger (once in SA), but has snappier recoil.
Shooting cheap FMJ in each gun, there is noticeably more recoil in the Sig. Will the perceived recoil between the two be less once I start shooting high quality personal defense rounds in each (+P for the 9mm)?
I know you can train to improve your follow-up shots in any caliber, but can you ever train away the gap between .40 and 9mm? In other words, can you be good enough that the difference in recoil between the two has little to no affect on your performance?
There's a lot to think about. My decision won't be determined only by this poll, but I'd like to get y'alls opinion on it, and take away some food for thought.
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