I won a good friend over, and he narrowed it down to a Glock 17 or a SIG P226 9mm. He wants it for home protection and heavy range use. I argued about SIG quality and accuracy, but he tells me that he could nearly purchase 2 new Glocks for the price of one SIG. So I decided to make a poll for him on here. If you had the choice between the Glock 17 or SIG P226 9mm for heavy range use and home protection which one would you go with?
Friend wants first gun! Glock vs SIG
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angel1216
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you can't go wrong with any of the two. it sounds like he's worried about sig's price. so i would go with the 17. i don't know but OP are not liking the gen 4. i held one @ a recent gun show....feels great! i'm waiting for a gen 4 19 or 26.
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While neither is a choice I hope to ever have to make <shudder!>, the Glock edges out the SIG for ergonomics ... such as they are ... and becasue it ISN'T a DA/SA.
easyg
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Actually I wouldn't recommend either.
I would instead recommend the Glock 23 or the Glock 19.
I would instead recommend the Glock 23 or the Glock 19.
Funny, That is one of the big reasons(DA/SA) I feel the SIG has the advantage. Accuracy is much higher at least it is for me and once you have trained with it, it is very hard to be as accurate with a Glock. Now I am not bad mouthing Glock, as a matter of fact I recommended a Glock to my brother a few months back because he wanted to spend less than $500. He really likes it.
I voted glock but I would've voted for a 19 or 23 if they would've been options. You said it's his first gun so hopefully he was taught to never ever ever put his finger on the trigger until he's ready to shoot or at the very least cleared the chamber first??? Even more important with Glocks and the reason idiots always shoot themselves with them then blame the inanimate object.
Both guns are fine pistols and will serve the home defense/range use criteria fine. For a friend I'd personally suggest a used police trade in Glock 17 and save him another $100. Its hard to beat a Glock for shear durability, reliability and ease of operation.
Sapper771
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My recomendation will depend on : What trigger system is your friend most accustomed to ? Does your friend prefer metal frames or polymer? What type of range shooting does your friend do , defense style shooting or bench for accuracy ? Does your friend reload 9mm ?
There is a lot of personal preference in play in this decision. As a universal recomendation , go to a range that rents these two pistols, shoot both, and go from there.
Both are excellent handguns. I own both the G17 and the Sig 226 9mm. I carry the G17 daily and I use the Sig 226 for range duty and general plinking.
Glock 17 Pro's(IMO): Lower Price, lower magazine cost, tenifer , not picky with ammo, simple manual of arms, reliable, long service life, plentiful parts, ability to fully disassemble with simple tools/user maintainability,
High capacity, light weight, large aftermarket support, cheap to improve trigger, short trigger reset,
Low bore axis,
Glock 17 Con's (IMO): grip angle, polygonal rifling not lead friendly,
Mooshy trigger, not as ergonomic,
Sig 226 Pro's(IMO): Reliable , most are near match grade accurate, cut rifled barrel is lead friendly, not ammo picky, grips can be changed, stainless/alloy construction, safer to carry C&L,
Sig 226 Con's(IMO): high bore axis, more complex internally, harder to get performance parts, more expensive, mags more expensive, heavier than Glock, DA to SA transition, longer SA trigger reset (non-SRT),
I left it open because I am sure I forgot a few. I will add that the Short Reset Trigger on some of the Sig models is well worth the money. I have a Sig 220 Beavertail that is a great shooter.
There is a lot of personal preference in play in this decision. As a universal recomendation , go to a range that rents these two pistols, shoot both, and go from there.
Both are excellent handguns. I own both the G17 and the Sig 226 9mm. I carry the G17 daily and I use the Sig 226 for range duty and general plinking.
Glock 17 Pro's(IMO): Lower Price, lower magazine cost, tenifer , not picky with ammo, simple manual of arms, reliable, long service life, plentiful parts, ability to fully disassemble with simple tools/user maintainability,
High capacity, light weight, large aftermarket support, cheap to improve trigger, short trigger reset,
Low bore axis,
Glock 17 Con's (IMO): grip angle, polygonal rifling not lead friendly,
Mooshy trigger, not as ergonomic,
Sig 226 Pro's(IMO): Reliable , most are near match grade accurate, cut rifled barrel is lead friendly, not ammo picky, grips can be changed, stainless/alloy construction, safer to carry C&L,
Sig 226 Con's(IMO): high bore axis, more complex internally, harder to get performance parts, more expensive, mags more expensive, heavier than Glock, DA to SA transition, longer SA trigger reset (non-SRT),
I left it open because I am sure I forgot a few. I will add that the Short Reset Trigger on some of the Sig models is well worth the money. I have a Sig 220 Beavertail that is a great shooter.
Sapper I like your list, it's pretty accurate and fair, though I've got two things I think are way off-
1. Glock grip angle.
As a first time handgun owner, it isn't going to make a single bit of difference to him. The grip angle gripe, as far as I can tell, comes mainly from people who A. haven't shot much or B. have shot one particular, nameless design since the dawn of time and don't want to adjust, with a portion of people belonging to C., the pistol's layout really just doesn't work for their hands.
And 2., Sig safer to carry cocked and locked?
Good Lord man! Why would you carry a DA/SA decocker equipped gun without decocking it first?
1. Glock grip angle.
As a first time handgun owner, it isn't going to make a single bit of difference to him. The grip angle gripe, as far as I can tell, comes mainly from people who A. haven't shot much or B. have shot one particular, nameless design since the dawn of time and don't want to adjust, with a portion of people belonging to C., the pistol's layout really just doesn't work for their hands.
And 2., Sig safer to carry cocked and locked?
Good Lord man! Why would you carry a DA/SA decocker equipped gun without decocking it first?
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Wouldn't it make more sense for him to shoot the crap out of samples of each and then decide which one he liked?
I like both of those pistols, but mostly carry a G19. That doesn't mean that what I'd pick is what he should pick.
That said, Bud's Gun Shop lists a Sig 226 at $760.00, a G17 at something mysteriously less than $524.00, for a difference of about $236.00. Local WalMart sells Blazer 9mm for about $11.00 for a box of 50. That's a lot of practice ammo – about 1,050 rounds.
I like both of those pistols, but mostly carry a G19. That doesn't mean that what I'd pick is what he should pick.
That said, Bud's Gun Shop lists a Sig 226 at $760.00, a G17 at something mysteriously less than $524.00, for a difference of about $236.00. Local WalMart sells Blazer 9mm for about $11.00 for a box of 50. That's a lot of practice ammo – about 1,050 rounds.
Both are awesome guns, he would be making a great choice with either one
However, I think it'll depend on more of what he wants to work with
Glock: consistant trigger (though heavier than SIG's SA), lighter, striker fired, a little less accurate than the SIG (though either gun will probably be more accurate than him), an easier design to learn, cheaper, easy to field/detail strip
SIG: two different trigger pulls (though the SA is great), more complex (SA/DA, decocker), looks prettier to most, more expensive
Both will be diehard workhorses, have a big aftermarket (though the Glock probably more), will give him a lifetime of reliability, and will probably rarely, if ever, give him any problems
As far as 9mm goes, those two are about as good as it gets
However, I think it'll depend on more of what he wants to work with
Glock: consistant trigger (though heavier than SIG's SA), lighter, striker fired, a little less accurate than the SIG (though either gun will probably be more accurate than him), an easier design to learn, cheaper, easy to field/detail strip
SIG: two different trigger pulls (though the SA is great), more complex (SA/DA, decocker), looks prettier to most, more expensive
Both will be diehard workhorses, have a big aftermarket (though the Glock probably more), will give him a lifetime of reliability, and will probably rarely, if ever, give him any problems
As far as 9mm goes, those two are about as good as it gets
glove
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I would say a G-19 or G-26 But the G-17 is also a great pistol.
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G17, mainly because the Sig P226/8 series simply don't fit my hand (two forum members who recently purchased a couple of my Sigs will attest to that).
Either will serve his purposes well.
Since he has designs on heavy range use, he should consider this: he can fund quite a few trips to his local firing line with the money he saves by buying the Glock instead of the Sig.
The good news is that whatever he ends up with he has one helluva good weapon...not a bad outcome.
Either will serve his purposes well.
Since he has designs on heavy range use, he should consider this: he can fund quite a few trips to his local firing line with the money he saves by buying the Glock instead of the Sig.
The good news is that whatever he ends up with he has one helluva good weapon...not a bad outcome.
But as for which, he should really shoot both first
SIGs are my favorite pistols, but I shoot Glocks better. Therefore, of the two, I'd choose the Glock 17. Doesn't mean it's a better gun, but it's better for me as a user. He should make the same choice
SIGs are my favorite pistols, but I shoot Glocks better. Therefore, of the two, I'd choose the Glock 17. Doesn't mean it's a better gun, but it's better for me as a user. He should make the same choice
I own three Sig's one, my 229 with three caliber conversion barrel's among other guns. I would only accept a Glock as a present on condition I could sell it immediately. I accept and acknowledge it is a well built, fine shooter, but, so God awful ugly. I guess it's really a case of which feels best in your hand and shoots best for you, not how much it costs or what it looks like.
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Have both, like both. For a lot of shooting, like the Sig a bit better.
1KPerDay
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Get whichever fits his hand and points correctly for him.
MisterMike
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As I write this, the vote is 20-20. Here's the way I see it. Both are excellent guns. You friend wants to get the Glock. He should get the Glock and you should stop trying to cajole him into spending more than he wants to spend just because you prefer the Sig.
Both guns have their fans (I own both brands, though not these specific models). The only thing that I'll add is this: more than one LEO acquaintance of mine has had experience with both Glocks and Sigs, and those I know generally prefer Glocks for their greater perceived reliability.
Incidentally, I like the earlir recommendation of the Glock 19 or 23--they're the perfect size.
Both guns have their fans (I own both brands, though not these specific models). The only thing that I'll add is this: more than one LEO acquaintance of mine has had experience with both Glocks and Sigs, and those I know generally prefer Glocks for their greater perceived reliability.
Incidentally, I like the earlir recommendation of the Glock 19 or 23--they're the perfect size.
Full Metal Jacket
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I've fired both of those, and I prefer the Sig because the Glock doesn't sit comfortably in my hand.
The OP's friend should go to a range and hire both guns and spend a few hours working out which one suits him. I did not know until I fired it, that the Glock was not a good match to me.
Go try them both.
The OP's friend should go to a range and hire both guns and spend a few hours working out which one suits him. I did not know until I fired it, that the Glock was not a good match to me.
Go try them both.
ForumSurfer
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I hate the Glock grip angle...even though I own one. I must not hate it too bad since I'm contemplating purchasing a second.
That being said, this is the OP's buddy's first gun. Whatever grip angle he gets used to will be most comfortable for him. I'd say the grip angle grip is a non-issue here since the guy isn't already accustomed to any grip angle.
That being said, this is the OP's buddy's first gun. Whatever grip angle he gets used to will be most comfortable for him. I'd say the grip angle grip is a non-issue here since the guy isn't already accustomed to any grip angle.
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