carrying as a correction officer?

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If I am employed as a correction officer in the state of florida, can I legally carry as would a police officer on the street?

I have a concealed weapon permit but I was wondering if a correction officer carried the LEO title and can carry every where. Cin
 
I dont know about fl, but in NC a LEO is defined as an indiviual employed by a law enforcement agency. The DOC is not a LEA.

My uncle asked his superiors about the same thing when he worked for the NCDOC. That was the answer he got.
 
It depends on your state. Sworn officer with arrest powers would be the minimum, I would think. Some employees of a DOC might qualify, for instance, parole officers.
 
In California, a California Department of Corrections Correctional Officer has the same status as a Police Officer, IIRC.

In some state DOCs, there are sworn Peace Officers working as Criminal Investigators, with the same powers of arrest, search and seizure as Police Officers, and can carry.

Your state may vary.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
iirc

HR 218 would allow you to carry if you are a sworn officer. so if you are working on a wackenhut contract , no.
 
In Florida, sworn corrections officers are considered "peace officers" for the purposes of making arrests and carrying of weapons. When off-duty, they have the same arrest powers as any other civilian. They can carry weapons off-duty, as long as their department doesn't have a written policy against it. I don't know how the Federal law would view that.

Since you have a concealed weapon license, I would just use that, as long as you're in Florida, or any of the states we have reciprocation with.
 
Tecumseh said;
I know that in Cook County Illinois the COs can carry.
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Unless Cook County COs are considered peace officers by the the Cook County Sheriffs Office and trained as such, they can't legally carry. Correctional Officers aren't peace officers by Illinois laws and and can't carry except in the course of their employment. The last time a bill was in the General Assembly to allow correctional officers to carry, it was defeated after the State DOC objected, primarily because they didn't want COs leaving weapons in their car while at work and didn't want to spend the money to provide them with secure storage facilities at the prisons.

Jeff
 
In VA, DOC officers can not carry offduty according to state law. I do know of at least one locality that according to the city ordances, DOC officers can carry, but only in the city limits.

I use to be a CO at Red Onion State Prison. INTERESTING place.

Sparky
 
Most FL CO's don't carry weapons on the job. Why would you carry one in public?
 
uh mark

Most FL CO's don't read newspapers on the job. Why would you read one in public?

:neener:

Most CO's are not allowed to carry firearms in prisons except for guard towers
but they do carry mace and batons.

I would guess that a CO would want to carry because a convict might see you in the store after he is released and want to kill your entire family...seems like a good enuff reason to me.

Or a CO being a free American may just like to enjoy his right to life liberty etc, just like 99.9% of the rest of thr members.
 
I tried to find out for a friend

who is a class three sworn peace officer in NV but he quit the NV DOC because it was to dangerous and went back to private security.

His superior officers had not even heard of hr218 and no one could ever find a good answer.

FL sounds weird , your a peace officer on duty but not off?

that would stink because if you visit NYC you cant carry and you know FL NY
are interchangable populations, you here more NY accents in WPB then Queens
 
96% of ALL inmates are eventually released. Average time served nationwide for murder is 8 years. We see them day in day out, keep them in check, keep them in comlpliance, keep them inside the walls. For some odd reason, they don't like us much...
This is why have a sidearm and spare ammo, as well as a cell phone and knife, off duty. As I said before, I have stared in the face of Evil, and Evil gets out on parole next Tuesday.
 
Maybe I misunderstood the OP

If I am employed as a correction officer in the state of florida, can I legally carry as would a police officer on the street?

I have a concealed weapon permit but I was wondering if a correction officer carried the LEO title and can carry every where.
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I read this as a Florida CO, open carrying "as a police officer would on the street"

I work in Florida law enforcement, and a don't believe that FLORIDA CO's are considered LEOs.

When we have to serve warrants on prisoners in jail, a sworn officer / deputy must serve the warrant, a CO can't. So I'm assuming that a CO doesn't have the same priviliges as a FL LEO

And yes, I understand that prisoners get released eventually. I deal with them daily, but being non-sworn, and being a FL CCW holder, I have to play by the rules just like every other CCW holder in FL. :)
 
When we have to serve warrants on prisoners in jail, a sworn officer / deputy must serve the warrant, a CO can't. So I'm assuming that a CO doesn't have the same priviliges as a FL LEO
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Title XLVII
CRIMINAL PROCEDURE AND CORRECTIONS Chapter 901
ARRESTS View Entire Chapter

901.04 Direction and execution of warrant.--Warrants shall be directed to all sheriffs of the state. A warrant shall be executed only by the sheriff of the county in which the arrest is made unless the arrest is made in fresh pursuit, in which event it may be executed by any sheriff who is advised of the existence of the warrant. An arrest may be made on any day and at any time of the day or night.

History.--s. 4, ch. 19554, 1939; CGL 1940 Supp. 8663(4); s. 6, ch. 70-339; s. 34, ch. 73-334.
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Also:

Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS View Entire Chapter

790.052 Carrying concealed firearms; off-duty law enforcement officers.--

(1) All persons holding active certifications from the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as law enforcement officers or correctional officers as defined in s. 943.10(1), (2), (6), (7), (8), or (9) shall have the right to carry, on or about their persons, concealed firearms, during off-duty hours, at the discretion of their superior officers, and may perform those law enforcement functions that they normally perform during duty hours, utilizing their weapons in a manner which is reasonably expected of on-duty officers in similar situations. However, nothing in this subsection shall be construed to limit the right of a law enforcement officer, correctional officer, or correctional probation officer to carry a concealed firearm off duty as a private citizen under the exemption provided in s. 790.06 that allows a law enforcement officer, correctional officer, or correctional probation officer as defined in s. 943.10(1), (2), (3), (6), (7), (8), or (9) to carry a concealed firearm without a concealed weapon or firearm license. The appointing or employing agency or department of an officer carrying a concealed firearm as a private citizen under s. 790.06 shall not be liable for the use of the firearm in such capacity. Nothing herein limits the authority of the appointing or employing agency or department from establishing policies limiting law enforcement officers or correctional officers from carrying concealed firearms during off-duty hours in their capacity as appointees or employees of the agency or department.

(2) The superior officer of any police department or sheriff's office or the Florida Highway Patrol, if he or she elects to direct the officers under his or her supervision to carry concealed firearms while off duty, shall file a statement with the governing body of such department of his or her instructions and requirements relating to the carrying of said firearms.

History.--ss. 1, 2, 3, ch. 72-84; s. 235, ch. 77-104; s. 23, ch. 79-8; s. 3, ch. 88-183; s. 4, ch. 95-318; s. 1204, ch. 97-102.
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[TRANSLATION]All active law enforcement officers or correctional officers have the right to carry concealed firearms, during off-duty hours, as long as their superiors give permission, and may perform whatever functions that they normally perform during duty hours, using their weapons in a manner which is reasonably expected of on-duty officers in similar situations.[/TRANSLATION]

Basically, if you're an off-duty policeman, corrections officer, parole officer, or whatever, you can carry a weapon without a CWL as long as you have permission. Your department has to give written notice to the state that their officers can carry off-duty. You're expected to act the same way you would if you were on-duty and armed.

Yo can also carry a concealed weapon with your CWL, but since you're not carrying "under the color" of your employing agency, there's no expectation that you would act the same way you would while on-duty. That said, though, I'd expect that if you witness the comission of a forcible felony, you'd probably act to stop it, and hold the persons until on-duty officers come to take custody.
 
[TRANSLATION]All active law enforcement officers or correctional officers have the right to carry concealed firearms, during off-duty hours, as long as their superiors give permission, and may perform whatever functions that they normally perform during duty hours, using their weapons in a manner which is reasonably expected of on-duty officers in similar situations.[/TRANSLATION]
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Ay, there's the rub.

I once took some Criminal Justice courses at the local Community College. One of my instructors was the Deputy Chief of a municipal agency within Orange County (FL) Even HE couldn't carry his duty weapon out of his jurisdiction as it was city policy not to. Guess the city lawyers didn't want to tempt fate and assume liability should one of their officers have to use ther weapon outside of the jurisdiction. He could, however,carry concealed with a FL CCW
 
Can you answer this

When I was in Texas for six months I saw police men wear guns in Walmart all the time. Now what I would like to know is why can they do that. (1) When you walk in the door they is a sign that reads NO FIREARM. (2) If he the officer is working why is he in Walmart? he should be doing his job not shopping at Walmart. (3) If he is not working why can't he leave his gun in the car or at home. I can not wear a gun in Walmart. So why can a officer.

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