carrying firearms across state lines

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So I cant get any solid info on this. My girl and I are taking a cross country trip, heading west to east. We are driving from WA to MI via all states with reciprocity in between.

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I want to take my M4 and my M1A rifle with me to shoot at a range I know of in MI, but cant find any solid links about the actual laws. I dont want to be that guy who makes us all look bad. Obvioiusly I will have them unloaded and locked in cases, but what are the regs conerning crossing state lines?

If anybody has any links or lives in MT, WY, ID, MN, WI, IL, IN and Ohio please help me out, again I dont want to be that ******bag on the news giving the anti gunners more poo to sling at us.

Thank you
 
With long guns you should be ok here in Michigan. Pistols are a pain, but you implied you have a CCW/CPL. I'm not sure as to our laws regarding pistols, but I think you are ok. Maybe someone can chime in on that.

Definately in IL and WI all guns must be in a case in the trunk per FOPA. Just try not to get pulled over in those states.
 
handgunlaw.us is a good place to start, but neither this site nor that one is really a source for law. You need to contact the attorneys general for the states you will be visiting and find out for sure. (Sometimes it's just a place to start. For example, in Utah, The AG will refer you to the Bureau of Criminal Investigation.) But yeah, if you get stopped, and you cite a law as for why you are legal, it's best if you got that law from the state's website. Not this one.
 
18 USC 926A will be good in all the states you will be traveling through and will make it easy:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000926---A000-.html
§ 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
 
I am a police officer for the state of missouri. If you are just carring long guns you won't have a problem as long as they r unloaded and not in reach of the driver. And the ammo has to be in a locked container other that the glove compartment or the console.
 
Be CAREFUL going through Wisconsin & Illinois! I'm pretty certain that neither state allows reciprocity with CPL's. If I were you, I'd just avoid those states all together, and come into MI through the U.P. It's prettier than Wisconsin & Illinois, and you don't have to deal with the Chicago traffic. Prolly add a few hours on your trip, but still a MUCH nicer drive...
 
what he said about the Peoples Republic of Illinois...I wonder sometimes if that state is even part of the US
 
I don't know about reciprocity between WA and OH, but just transiting across OH won't be a problem at all, as long as you follow the provisions of FOPA.

Just be aware that if your CCW credential is not recognized by OH, ALL magazines must be unloaded. If it's recognized, PISTOL magazines may be loaded, but I believe that rifle magazines must be unloaded.
 
Be CAREFUL going through Wisconsin & Illinois! I'm pretty certain that neither state allows reciprocity with CPL's.
Since the OP specifically mentioned he is bringing his M-1A and M-4 I hardly think there's a concern about a concealed pistol license and reciprocity. :rolleyes:

For IL the law only requires the firearms be unloaded and in a case. Ammo does not have to be in a case/container but it can be in the same case as the firearm as long as it is not in the firearm. Mags can be loaded but no loaded mags can be in the firearm. Per IL law the firearms can be transported anywhere in the vehicle; however, for FOPA the firearms are to be inaccessible to the occupants. It's not a violation of IL law if the firearms are in the same compartment as the occupants.
 
what he said about the Peoples Republic of Illinois...I wonder sometimes if that state is even part of the US

Hey, we are a great state(ok not really) but were stuck with an old crappy mayor(who pretty much runs the state) who has brainwashed to many minorities to vote for him. It's probably not what people want to hear, but it's the truth.
 
As long as they're unloaded, cased, and in the trunk, you should be good in every state that you pass through. You need to be sure they're legal at your destination, though.

That being said, I wouldn't even travel through Cook County (Chicago) with the M4. Even though you're legal under Federal Law, I'm sure the Daley goons wouldn't mind confiscating it pending their "investigation".
 
"Commonwealth of Massachusetts"

Massachusetts has TOUGH GUN LAWS!
Ten Year MANDATORY JAIL TIME FOR BREAKING IT/THEM! There are even signs stating that on each road going into the "state".

DO NOT be caught transporting any weapon through that state without the proper papers!

Vermont (the state adjacent to the right of Mass. on the map) doesn't require conceal carry licenses at all, and you can carry openly if you wish as well, here in Vermont.

Next door is the "Commonwealth of Massachusetts". :uhoh:
 
The long guns won't be a problem in MI. NO HANDGUNS!

Handguns are fine in Michigan if he has a CPL recognized for reciprocity by Michigan. Otherwise no.

If your travel plans allow it, the UP is beautiful, far nicer than going through Illinois. But it all depends where in Michigan you're heading and how much time you have.
 
Go to this www site

www.mcrgo.net

The Michigan Coalition Of Responsible Gun Owners. Their site has links to the state police or attorney general's office of all states with specific information on recoprocity between states.

I am an instructor in MI and IMO you can't trust anything in these "books of laws" that changes are too often missed and the books are generally out dated when they are printed.
 
If you don't do anything wrong the police won't pull you over!

My brother and I went from Quebec to Maine then via the Eastern Seaboard to Dixie and Florida, around the Gulf of Mexico to Colorado via Texas and New Mexico, then Montana via Kansas and cross back into Canada from North Dakota...

We picked up guns from the semi custom makers along the way to replace those that were destroyed in a house fire and by the time we got back to Canada we had 42 longguns in the cab of the truck...We were stopped two times in "checks" asked for license and proof of insurance/ownership and that's it...The last stop the gun cases could be seen through the window of the crew cab with decals on it from NMLRA and NRA Life and JPFO and RKBA and a bunch of other orgs. and the officer smiles and asks "hunting or targets" which my brother, who was driving, replies target and he sent us off...

We were in a quandary as not for the fact we were Canadians--as the laws apply to us, but what to say to the police if stopped...According to the fifth amendment if asked if you have drugs or weapons in the car you do not have to respond etc.--but that will piss off the officer who will make life miserable for you...The officers do not have the right to search your vehicle without a warrant and that can be obtained only in the commission of a crime (and not answering if you have contraband is not a crime regardless what the policeman says) or with probable/justifiable cause or where the "items" are visible or can be readily smelt in the interior of the vehicle...

I have to relate a story to you that happened to my then 70 yr old uncle and aunt who were driving from Ontario to Florida to winter, as they have done every year since he retired as a "Federal" judge...It seems that all along the "corridor" as it's called (the main pipeline for drugs from FL to the NE states) has a policy by the LEOs called Harass the Snowbirds! or some such name...While going through TN he was pulled over for no reason other then the officer was a gigantic prick…The officer comes to the side of the car and screams “give me your lic/reg”— no hello, no why they got pulled over, no please--which my uncle complies to…the LEO goes back to the Cruiser and “does” the checks making them wait nearly 20 minutes, returns to the side of the Cadillac and yells “You gots any guns or them there drugs in your vee-hic-kle”. Now both of them were carrying concealed for which they have permits and never got a chance to indicate to the cop but my Uncle says nothing, officer demands again and uncle says “fifth amendment prevents me from incriminating myself and if you’re not going to ticket us, give me back my papers, please, and we’ll be on our way, thank you very much”…The officer starts a three minute and twenty two second tirade (recoded on his in-vehicle system and clandestinely by my aunt), which at the end he draws his gun and demands they exit the vehicle…before my uncle exits he then states that they were both legally carrying concealed and will exit slowly leaving the purse on the seat…the PIG demands backup via his radio, roughly disarms him, handcuffs both of them behind their backs and proceeds to search the interior and trunk and even opening their suitcases and boxes when a Sgt arrives in one patrol car and the “drug” dog in another…My uncle and aunt were taken and charged with speeding, unsafe (reckless) driving, failure to signal a lane change and resisting arrest and the car was towed to the compound…I am very pleased to say that the PIG in question is no longer an officer of the law (at least not at that location) and my nephews and nieces are sharing the multi million dollars awarded to their parents…

Before the flames get high, let me say that most LEOs are not PIGs, have some semblance of decorum and aren't out to harass the populous because they can because they’re wearing a uniform, badge and gun...Psychological testing prior to admission and whilst in officer school has brought a better class of officer forward but obviously some slip through…

So the choice is yours as to whether you answer or not the question of “You gots any guns or them there drugs in your vee-hic-kle”.
 
My advice is drive through WI and the UP and stay out of IL. That would preclude you from visiting our fine state, but I'm at enmity with IL gun laws.

Rifle=unloaded, cased, locked in the trunk.

You're fine in Indiana with the handgun AS LONG AS you have a handgun license from your home state (technically any state will do, but I'm not sure that the sops know their laws well enough to avoid a hassle. Indiana doesn't have any exceptions for the handgun license thing, but if you're following the peaceable journey regs already quoted above I would presume you're legal, but IANAL.

And by "M4," should I assume you mean "M4gery"? Again in Indiana you're fine either way as long as you have proper papers for your M4.
 
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