Catching flak for ccw

[MinnMooney]

O.P. :

But is there such thing as ccw too often?

If 50% of the time is acceptable, Then is it OK to be mugged, raped, beaten or killed the other 50% of the time?

The same can be asked for every other percentage that you can justify. If you think about the safety of yourself and your loved ones then 100% of the time is the ONLY "acceptable" answer. What if you carried 95% of the time due to hot weather, dress-up occasions or because you "didn't feel like carrying? Could you be OK with knowing that you could have saved your or someone else's life during that 5% but.............. Oh, well.

I couldn't.

I carry 100% of the time.

I tell no one that I carry or that I am carrying.

Why would I?

 

[Shadowdancer]

I don't feel a need to push my religious or political views on anyone. The same is true of my choice to carry. When it comes to someone else's house, the issue is one of respect. Respect them for who they are and love them just the same. They have a right to control the activities in their home. Not obeying their wishes reflects more on you than on them.

 

[Nushif]

I thought I read every post here. Who said to hide things from the spouse?

It wasn't in this thread, but an eerily similar one concerning a wife being against carrying concealed. I just notice it's a bit of a common theme to assume you can hide your carrying habits from *anyone.*

 

[CoRoMo]

Well, I wouldn't have been surprised to learn that I missed something.

I agree though. Don't hide stuff from the wife.

 

[Just One Shot]

Just tell them that you carry all the time for the same reason they put on their seat belts everytime they get into a car.......you never know when you'll need it!

 

[MinnMooney]

by O.P. :

I know some situations are just not appropriate and some are illegal,

Everyone agrees with "and some are illegal" but when is it EVER "not appropriate" to be able to defend yourself or loved ones?!?

 

[redbullitt]

nonsense dont worry about it. They will get used to it

 

[CHEVELLE427]

i would Rather have it and not need it then not have it and need it,
BUT THAT IS JUST ME

 

[Werewolf]

Ever since I got my permit I've been catching alot of flak from friends and some family members for carrying all the time. I know some situations are just not appropriate and some are illegal, but I feel that when I can and when it makes sense to carry I do.

But is there such thing as ccw too often?

List some situations that are legal but in your opinion inappropriate and I'll patiently explain why they are...

Appropriate to carry that is.

 

[12131]

Catching flak for ccw

Ever since I got my permit I've been catching alot of flak from friends and some family members for carrying all the time. I know some situations are just not appropriate and some are illegal, but I feel that when I can and when it makes sense to carry I do.

But is there such thing as ccw too often?

Not to me. Better to have and not need it, than to need and not have it.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Got a nephew who's a police chief opposed to CCW. We got into a heated discussion one evening and he asked me why I carried a gun all the time.

I asked him was he going to follow me around and protect me 24/7? Of course, he said that wasn't his job. My immediate response was, "I rest my case! when seconds count, you guys are minutes (sometimes over an hour) away!"

End of discussion and he doesn't bug me about it anymore. My wife carries too. Hopefully we'll never have to use them, but as has been stated many times, I'd rather have it and never need it than need it one time and not have it with me!.

 

[6x6pinz]

If you are properly CC'ing no one should know. Get a different set up. I carry over 99% of the time and very few people ever even know.

 

[Deanimator]

Nobody I've ever known who didn't want me to carry was willing to stop a bullet for me.

If you're not willing to protect me, keep your mouth shut about me protecting myself.

 

[gym]

I lived and carried in NYC for 22 years, and they are pretty anti-gun. Just don't tell anyone other than people who are family or very close friends. It's no ones business and you are only setting yourself up for a discussion you cannot win and will monopolise your time. Keep you business private, it's the best advice I could give.
Don't feel obligated to tell people who are not "in your close circle" your private affairs. You never know when it will bite you in the ass.

 

[Hardtarget]

there are a few people that know me well enough to KNOW my pistol is on me when they see me. Most do not even know I carry a gun...and I like that. I also carry a pocket knife all the time. In fact, for several years, I carried three pocket knives. A large, a medium, and a small. The small was for the weak and timid...so I wouldn't hurt their feelings. I got tired of that so now I just carry the large size.

As for my pistol, I carry most of the time. I don't let it be seen even by the ones in the know. After all...its supposed to be concealed.
If some of your friends/family are freaked by the gun...just keep quiet...don't ask, don't tell.

Mark

 

[cleardiddion]

I totally sympathize.
Too tired right now, just got home from work...
Maybe I'll edit my post later or write up a new one to explain later.

 

[HKIWB]

Don't tell anyone. The typical non-carrying citizen lives in denial of the world they live in. They don't want to acknowledge the things they see on the news every day, and they always find a way to rationalize why these things will never happen to them. Anyone who acknowledges the real threats in the world is a direct threat to their fragile world view, so they deny and argue. You'll never convince them that carrying is something a prudent person would do, and they will always argue against carrying to preserve their flawed idea that there is no need for anyone to do so.

 

[CHEVELLE427]

Don't tell anyone. The typical non-carrying citizen lives in denial of the world they live in. They don't want to acknowledge the things they see on the news every day, and they always find a way to rationalize why these things will never happen to them. Anyone who acknowledges the real threats in the world is a direct threat to their fragile world view, so they deny and argue. You'll never convince them that carrying is something a prudent person would do, and they will always argue against carrying to preserve their flawed idea that there is no need for anyone to do so.

until they need a gun then it will be too late, i would bet that some have a gun stashed away but still rant on why we don't need them.

i cant remember all the details but many years ago some guns are bad person was running for office, wanted to ban guns nobody needed one, then one night there was a bump in the night and guess who was caught outside with an unregister hand gun think it was in NY also think the guys name was (Michael Dukakis

 

[shockwave]

When it comes to someone else's house, the issue is one of respect. Respect them for who they are and love them just the same. They have a right to control the activities in their home.

Excellent point. Homeowner makes the rules. Keep your CCW to yourself and the existence (or not) of such a rule is a moot point. Seems the vast majority of these cases involve the owner of said firearm wanting to evangelize about carry or something like that. And then it becomes an issue.

Some people aren't comfortable around firearms. It's not my job to change the way they feel. I can do my part to not make them feel worse.

How about the homeowner who has small children and you're visiting overnight? For whatever reason, maybe you were showing off (unwisely, if so), and now he knows you're carrying a firearm in his house. So he asks you to please leave it in your car outside.

I can understand that. Maybe he's worried you'll leave your pistol lying around and one of his kids will pick it up and a tragedy will result. Now, here's the key point: Maybe you know that you won't put your gun down where the kids can get it, but how does the homeowner know that? How can he now be responsible for your firearm?

He can't. He now has to trust that you won't do some damn fool stupid thing and endanger him and everybody else in the household. Now his safety and his family's well-being are totally contingent on you not being an idiot. I know a LOT of people who operate on the assumption that most people are idiots and, to be truthful, I've rarely seen that assumption turn out to be in error.

So all this talk about seatbelts and "homeowner protecting me" etc. strikes me as missing the point. If you inform your host that you are carrying (and I can't think of any decent reason why you would do something like that), then you should respect whatever his policy is about firearms in his home and if it's some big deal, then grab a blanket and sleep in your car.

 

[Beaux Nehr]

It will work out over time.
My family used to give me flak for carrying at home, until the day when we were all sitting in the living room and heard a loud crash in the garage.

While they were all sitting down looking at eachother with puzzled faces, I was already assessing the situation, ready to act.

Tell them that if they wish to live as defenseless sheep it is their right, but they ought not to impose their pacifism on you.

Saying stuff like this will only reinforce negative stereotypes about gun owners, and exacerbate the situation.

 

[DustyVermonter]

Can you carry too often? No.


I actually left home without my rig for the first time in years the other day and the whole time I was out I just felt this uncomfortable awkwardness.

It's kind of like the same feeling as leaving your hat at home(for people who wear hats), if you for some reason left your hat at home, you would be very conscious of your head and the fact that your hat is not on it.

I don't care what somebody else thinks about it or not, its none of anybody's concern whether you carry a gun or not, unless they are being knelt down execution style during a robbery and they are wondering if that son-of-a-bitch who usually carries a gun has his CCW with him and is gonna save their sorry ass, but other than that, not for them to worry.

Nobody knows when I am carrying but even if someone did happen to see my rig I wouldn't care if they felt one way or the other about it.


Hell, I got married this past April and I was CCW even then and nobody knew, like others said, you'll never know when your gonna need it so its best to always have it. Kind of reminds me of an old saying: "Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it".

Always carry my friend, always!

 

[David E]

I've been catching alot of flak from friends and some family members for carrying all the time.

1) Why do they know?

2) Tell them you'll make them a deal: You'll carry it only as often as they carry a good spare in the trunk. And you hardly ever need a spare, so what's up with carrying one all the time?

 

[azyogi]

At my wedding I was OC a sgian dubh, a dirk, and a claymore. The kilt kind of detracted from my overall fierceness quotient. I must say draw from thunderwear is easy in kilt. That is if your sporran doesn't get in the way.

 

[Centaur 1]

I'm sure that people made fun of and criticized the first seat belt. I'm almost 50 years old and I've never been in an accident where I've needed my seatbelt, but I wear it every time that I get in a car. If the day comes that I need a gun to protect myself or my family, I'll be glad that I made a habit of carrying my weapon just like I wear my seatbelt in case I'm in an accident.

 

[David E]

That is if your sporran doesn't get in the way.

Hey! This is a family forum, y'know !