Got my CCW!-With a Catch

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I believe the "California" comment was directed toward the restrictive laws, not to the residents. The "People's Republic of California" and "California" and other such terms have been used ever since I joined THR, and common accepted usage is that it does NOT refer to fellow gunowners like you.

So, we get your point, but relax, please.
 
Thats nuttin..

So how about this,

My permit states as restrictions..."Invalid in vehicle" & "Invalid in Incorporated city limits"!

How is that for the sheriff being an absolute ass!

If he didn't issue at all I might have a little room to sue for unequal protection. As it is now I am paying for a useless piece of paper. I suppose if something were to happen to me I might have pretty good grounds?

I asked our sheriff one time why he doesn't issue useable permits. Get this..He said he doesn't want his deputies pulling over a car with a gun in it! OK I don't need to explain the stupidity of that one here. Also in Iowa permits are valid state wide. So a person with a permit from another county can carry here in mine, but I can't

On the good side the current sheriff is retriring, I have started a gun-owners PAC as well as we have a great candidate running whom will issue and we won the primary by a good margin..so hopefully things will soon change.

Also a shameless plug, but we are running a very grassroots campaign on our own money. If anyone wanted to visit www.rickphillipsforsheriff.com and then send in a small donation -say $5 even if not from here it would go a long ways. I have been fighting this for 10 yrs now.
 
Iowa Gun owners need to form a Grassroots orginazation to fight stupidity and descrimination loopholes such as these. The SC Grassroots orginazation has done a lot to reform our gun laws here. There is one last BIG hurdle, and that is the right to carry in "nice restaurants", or restaurants that sell alcohol. In SC, we don't have "bars", each and very establishment that sells alcohol ( I think it is just hard liquor) has to serve food as a main item.
I Iowa a Shall Issue state or May issue state?
 
I had never heard of $500 option and I think that it should be challenged.
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This is a very common restriction in may issue states. You have a prove a need, so if you say you carry cash, the sheriff will say, ok, when you carry cash you can carry a gun.

I don't agree with it, but it's not uncommon.
 
It doesn't say US dollars. Find one of the various other nations that use "dollars" as a currency and has a really good exchange rate. You might be able to get $500 in "Elbonian" dollars or some such for like $5.

If they can exploit loopholes, so can you :D
 
Fender,

"..... in January they print all the holders in the state..."

Sounds like they (Sherriff + local newspapers) are using CCW holders as chum for criminals.

Bad guy think: "All I have to do is sneak up and get the drop on one of the CCW holders and I got a gun and 500 bucks!"
 
"..... in January they print all the holders in the state..." Sounds like they (Sherriff + local newspapers) are using CCW holders as chum for criminals. Bad guy think: "All I have to do is sneak up and get the drop on one of the CCW holders and I got a gun and 500 bucks!"
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Look into starting a class action suit for wreckless endangerment of the public. Convieniently he's published everyone who can participate for you. "Protect and Serve" my butt.
 
I sure don't like the idea of having to carry $500 all the time.

In my county the only thing the sheriff has wanted to see put on the application is TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW .

In recent times the permit process has been taken over by the state. It used to be a holder could list as many handguns as he wanted on his/her permit. The state decided you can only list 3.

The only other restrictions are sensible ones, such as not carrying into bars, schools, jails, courthouses. Sensible enough.

Overall I'm satisfied with the CCW situation here, and am glad I can have one. With all the other assinine laws this state has I'm surprised they haven't banned them altogether.

And our names sure as hell aren't put in the newspapers!!! Now that's assinine!
 
I wonder if I could use this as “good cause†on a California CCW-permit application. I think keeping $500 on my person would be a small price to “pay†for the privilege of having a get-out-of-jail-free card. Besides, cash-and-carry is the way to go, right?

~G. Fink
 
How about having a friend of yours make a check out to you for $500.00 and keep it in your wallet....wonder if that would fly?
 
The only other restrictions are sensible ones, such as not carrying into bars, schools, jails, courthouses. Sensible enough.
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So you support having defenseless schools with no responsible person around able to defend the children? Oh that's right......no one would EVER think to shoot up a school. Also bars do serve food don't they? Not everyone who goes into a bar does so to drink and get drunk....there are designated drivers.
 
IA sheriffs have a lot of power

FenderBender I used to live in Wapello County. The sheriff down there set the dollar amount at $2K!! Needless to say I didn't walk around with that kind of money. The good news was when they do issue the permits in Wapello they don't fill them out properly. There is a section on the permit for "restrictions" Wapello fills this section in with "Not valid while using drugs or alcohol" Under the section "justification for issuance" They list “while carrying $2000 or more.†In my mind I had a nice little loophole that I could exploit. I suppose it could have landed me in trouble, but since it was never an issue I would do it again. What I am saying is make sure your county is filling out the permit properly. If they are not then maybe you can skate on a loophole like I did.
 
How about rolling up the bills and putting them in the empty chamber under the hammer of your revolver? Wasn't that what the old cowboys used to do that so they would have burial money if they were killed while driving the herd?

If a mugger tells you to give them all your money you'd be able to keep a straight face when you fish it out of your pocket. :D
 
I had never heard of $500 option and I think that it should be challenged.

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This is a very common restriction in may issue states. You have a prove a need, so if you say you carry cash, the sheriff will say, ok, when you carry cash you can carry a gun.

I don't agree with it, but it's not uncommon.
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Let's say you're a business owner and this is a real need, how do you go to the bank? Deposit everything but 500.00.:confused:
 
Well clearly you are supposed to unload and lock your gun in the trunk when you get to the bank. Why would you need to protect yourself on the way back? :uhoh:
 
How would I be able to buy the gun if I am suppose to always carry the $500? It basically has to be money I would never spend, money that could be in the bank making lousy interest.

I asked and it has to be 500 American dollars, no checks, no credit cards.
 
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