CBS' Mary Mapes, in 'Vanity Fair,' Defends Role in 'RatherGate'

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CBS' Mary Mapes, in 'Vanity Fair,' Defends Role in 'RatherGate'

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001393128
By E&P Staff



NEW YORKIn the upcoming December issue of Vanity Fair, Mary Mapes, the CBS News producer who lost her job after the disputed "60 Minutes II" Bush/National Guard report, writes, "I must answer the bloggers, the babblers and blabbers, and the true believers who have called me everything from 'feminazi' to an 'elitist liberal' to an 'idiot.'

"If I was an idiot, it was for believing in a free press that is able to do its job without fear or favor. ...I didn't know that the attack on our story was going to be as effective as a brilliantly run national political campaign, because that is what it was: a political campaign."

The December article, not yet generally available, is an excerpt from Mapes' soon-to-be-published book, "Truth and Duty" (St. Martin's) on her career and the episode often called Rathergate. Vanity Fair says Mapes sets out to "answer her critics."

Mapes writes that she had felt the Guard segment was a big success after airing on Sept. 8, 2004, until the following morning at 11 a.m. when she learned that a bunch of "far-right" Web sites were claiming that documents were forged.

That same day about 3 p.m. she recalls staring at the Drudge Report and seeing a big picture of Rather at the top and a headline saying that he was "shaken" and hiding in his office. The phone rang and it was Rather, telling her he'd just heard about the Drudge headline and he wanted to assure her that he was not "shaken" and was not even in his office.

He signed off with a favorite expression of his: "FTA" for "---- them all."

She writes that what she didn't know at the time was that the attack on the "60 Minutes" piece was just part of the Bu????es "sliming" of those who raised questions about the president.

After detailing the unraveling of the Guard segment, Mapes describes crying her eyes out at an airport bathroom after Rather tells her by phone that CBS was going to apologize for the report and appoint a committee to investigate what went wrong. Rather also told her to get a lawyer.

Finally, she details how in that probe the question of how "liberal" she was became paramount. She likens it to the days of Sen. Joe McCarthy and charges that it was ironic that the same network that stood up to McCarthy with the Edward R. Murrow broadcasts was now caving in to similar tactics now: "Suspected liberals had become the new 'Communists...What in the world would Edward R. Murrow think of his network now?"

In the end she observes that the outside panel that probed the report and found correct procedures were lacking did not investigate the legitimacy of the documents. She claims that a researcher has since shown her typography on other documents from the period Bush was in the Guard that suggest that the memos she obtained cannot be easily dismissed "as being forgeries."

She also calls one of the co-leaders of that probe, Dick Thornburgh, worse than an "empty suit...He was completely full if it."

Throughout the article, Vanity Fair frequently cuts away for bracketed response from others involved in the episode who answer or rebut some of her charges.

At one point, for example, she asserts that CBS News chief Andrew Heyward said that if the bloggers could come up with "lousy analysts" to attack the authenticity of the memos CBS could find its own "lousy analysts."

In an e-mail to Vanity Fair, Heyward denied this.


E&P Staff ([email protected])
 
So yet another liberal journalist is astounded that she is outed as a bad reporter, relying on half-truths, and St. Martins offers her a book deal and Vanity Fair publishes a sympathic piece honoring her courage!

Call me surprised!:rolleyes:

Interesting that Vanity Fair also covered Valerie Plame and Ambassador Wilson in a similar sympathetic article and Carroll & Graf Publishers, just announced a deal with Wilson & Plame to publish their book, "The Politics of Truth."

Sound familiar folks?

Liberal leftists all operate from the same sheet of music!

:(
 
So Valerie 'Covert Agent in Virginia' Plame is going to write a book? :confused:

Is her picture going to be on the jacket?
 
I myself, like the "days of Sen. Joe McCarthy" comment. You know
what..... Joe only went after a couple of people, (2 or 3 max) and guess
what. He was right! The people were Communists.
 
If I was an idiot, it was for believing in a free press that is able to do its job without fear or favor
You do have a free press, Mary; what's bugging you is that other people have the write to print their ideas also. Freedom of press isn't just for the leftys, Mary. Other people have rights too ! :eek:

And in the bloggers favor, they weren't the ones who were trying to influence an election with forged documents.

Now that the Internet has leveled the playing field for published opinions, the leftys can't compete. Reminds me of a few years ago when Cokie Roberts was outraged that bloggers should be allowed to report news on the Internet without being filtered, processed, and massaged by "professional" Mainstream Media (TM) reporters.
 
The lefties conjure up the specter of old Joe McCarthy whenever it suits their purpose but will not acknowledge they use the same tactics themselves. They want a candidate to be able to recite the marxist catechism by heart before they will give him a fair hearing. Somebody who will not stoop to their level gets crucified. ;)
 
Maybe Ms. Maples needs to read history. The hollywood Ten were all active communists. Algier Hiss was a communist spy, Stalin was a really bad guy and Castro still is. And guess what you Ms. Maples are a liar and yes that dirty word Liberal in the modern sense.
 
Reminds me of a few years ago when Cokie Roberts was outraged that bloggers should be allowed to report news on the Internet without being filtered, processed, and massaged by "professional" Mainstream Media (TM) reporters.

LOL!

I was watching This Week last Sunday when Cokie came up with this gem, discussing the groups who would be fighting over the new SC nominee:

"you have the right-wing crazies, and then you have the left-wing interest groups."

I hit the floor -- does she even realize how MUCH she and her comrades reveal about their true leanings just by talking?
 
I had always been taught

and got from my readings that McCarthy's time was in general a pretty bad one for american civil rights. I also always thought that any american has the right to be as commie as he or she wants because that's part of the freedoms that we fight for. Or are we fighting only for our current brand of ideology?

now if they had been traitors, that's a different story...
 
The really frightening thing about this whole situation is that Mapes, Rather et. al. truly believe that they were reporting actual, factual news, and that the opposition to their efforts was solely politically-motivated rather than a quest to find out whether what they were reporting was true or not.

I know many conservatives who've openly said that if CBS' allegations had been proven, they would either not have voted, or voted for Kerry, in protest against Bush's antics. Certainly, it would have discredited him in my eyes as a reliable, truthful candidate. However, the evidence did not hold up under examination, and this problem did not arise.

Mapes and her ilk simply can't see the wood for the trees. They are not just believers, but fanatics - it's their way or the highway. Unfortunately, we have some on the Right who are just as bad. Extremists on either end of the spectrum are just as dangerous.
 
Silverlance-------you need to rethink what you were TAUGHT. Me I was not TAUGHT about that era. I've read about it. No it is not O:K to be a communist in this country if you are a propaganda piece,spying and helping this countries enemies. Remember they were our enemies. Remember there was a Cold War. Remember any of this. It is not O:K to support a ideology that is aganist the Constitution of the USA. I recommed reading just to start the book that took a smack out of the Left and I might say The Nation Magazine. Whittaker Chambers "The Witness". Just start there. Lean how the communists were involved in Hollywood(as a way to make propaganda films), How they were controlling the UNIONS, How there were many spies in high Government places ie Aliger Hiss is just one. Read the Book " The Venona Secrets". Lets see it would be like saying It is O:K to allow the ideology of the Islamic Terrorists to be tolerated, let them serve freely in the government, if they are spies so what. Same thing.
 
I watched Mapes on O'Reilly last night and am disappointed
that Bill O'Reilly apparently did not read the Thornburgh
Boccardi report or any of the web log analysis of the memos.

The problems with the memos relied on by Mapes to
"prove" her suspicion that George W. Bush 1) got
preferential treatment to get in the TexANG and
2) did not fulfill his obligations to the TexANG
should be obvious by comparing a KNOWN memo from
Lt Col Killian's office (in this case Lt Bush's
promotion) to the PDFs posted by CBS Reports of
their "smoking gun" memos which do not match the
type style of any of the 60 or so authenticated
documents.
I am cutting and pasting from my PDF on this subject.
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The CBS Memos can be easily replicated by typing the
text into Microsoft Word using the default Windows install
settings of Truetype Times New Roman. During the 1970-1973
period represented by the sixty or so real and the six CBS
fake memos, Killian's office used an Olympia typewriter.
Here is the signature on the authenticated memo:
attachment.php

Here is the signature on a CBS Reports memo:
attachment.php

Killian's memo uses the TexANG signature line style of
name, rank, organization with no period after Lt.

The CBS Reports memos are fakes and did not come from
Killian's office, but rather from a Bill Burkett who
had disputes with Gov. GHW Bush over a disability
payment. Burkett was Texas Army National Guard.
Burkett has been caught making accusations followed by
lame retractions on other subjects. CBS tried to portray
him as Air National Guard who served with Bush and
Killian, but Burkett was Army National Guard which might
explain why his fakes do not match Air NG style and
include Army words like "billet" not found in other memos
from Killian's office.
 

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Reminds me of a few years ago when Cokie Roberts was outraged that bloggers should be allowed to report news on the Internet without being filtered, processed, and massaged by "professional" Mainstream Media (TM) reporters.
Hmmm . . . wasn't Cokie Roberts the reporterette who faked a "live" report from in front of the White House when she was actually in a studio, the White House being edited in via special effects? Who "filtered, processed, and massaged" that little bit of deception?

I also saw Mapes on O'Reilly . . . Mapes still offered no proof, and just kept regurgitating that the faked documents from a dead man were "true." :barf:
 
HankB said:
I also saw Mapes on O'Reilly . . . Mapes still offered no proof, and just kept regurgitating that the faked documents from a dead man were "true." :barf:

She was also very evasive and wouldn't answer questions in a straightforward manner. Another sign of lib hypocricy. She reminds me of the what "is" is argument.
 
To a Leftist, lying and deception is "Truth & Duty." As Lenin stated, anything that advances the cause of Socialism is moral--no matter how many lies or how many people one has to kill.

To Rather, to Mapes, to the staff of CBS, this known fraud was the moral thing to do as it would advance Socialism. Freedom is the Devil; Socialism is Heaven. To advance Socialism is to bring salvation to mankind.

(For those in THRland who have read the Qur'an, the Muslim extremists believe the same thing. Lying and killing are permitted are O.K. to advance Islam as Hell await non-Muslims and only Islam will save them).

CBS made one last stab to throw an election. Rathergate was the last grasp of a dying monster. However, we should never forget what they did and we should never believe anything they say or do anything they favor.
 
(For those in THRland who have read the Qur'an, the Muslim extremists believe the same thing. Lying and killing are permitted are O.K. to advance Islam as Hell await non-Muslims and only Islam will save them).
<sigh> Here we go again.

I'd say that the Qur'an is pretty clear in that the ends do not justify the means, but what do I know?
 
I'd say that the Qur'an is pretty clear in that the ends do not justify the means, but what do I know?

You're not all on your own. I'm not sure if it's funny or sad, the number of times I see people posting who claim to have read the Book when it's plain as day that they have done no more than read an anti-Muslim website which claims to relate the Book.
 
Derek, never said it did, but the New Barbary pirates certainly think so or that they oft cited suras give them permission to do so. Just like the Left here in the U.S. believes the ends (socialism) justify the means (lying, deception and murder).:)

I re-read my post, Derek. I thought I was perfectly clear that it is the extremists that believe this. I was careful not to say "the Holy Qur'an teaches" or "all Muslims believe", inter alia. If I should change it, let me know.:)
 
Yeah, and the Spanish Inquisition was done in the name of Christianity, and the Bible was used to justify chattel slavery here in North America more recently. We can go back and forth for a while if you like, but it's be quicker to simple ask: what's your point?

One moron suddenly casts a stain on a religion made up of billions? Man's nature compels him to do selfish things and then justify them using whatever means he can? That this isn't a recent phenomena, and happened in Thomas Jefferson's time as well?
 
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