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CCI Velociter 22/LR at 300 Yards

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by rugerman07, Sep 1, 2011.

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Would The CCI Velociter fired from a rifle be a good defense round?

Poll closed Oct 1, 2011.
  1. Yes

    51 vote(s)
    41.5%
  2. No

    72 vote(s)
    58.5%
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  1. rugerman07

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  2. SleazyRider

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    Very interesting video! At 300 yards, however, the results are probably more indicative of a hunting round rather than a defensive round. It would be interesting to perform the test at 10 yards using a handgun, but not on my roast beef sandwich! :D
     
  3. steveno

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    using a Manurhin PPK/s (3.25 inch barrel) I chronographed the CCI velocitor right at 1,000 fps. while there are certainly better rounds for self defense it is a lot better than a sharp stick
     
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    Those are kickin' little rounds. Out of a rifle, close up, I'd think that they'd be pretty good for defense.
     
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    My youngest son (29) has shot the 300 yard gong at our local range. He did it in front of several people that didn't think it could be done.
    He was shooting a standard 10/22 with a scope on it, a 3x9 if I remember correctly. Used Federal bulk pack 22 ammo. He was able to hit it more than miss once he got the hold over right. A nice quiet plink when he'd hit it. No need for the high priced CCI Velocitors.
     
  6. ms6852

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    There is a good write up on one of sniper forums where some one did something similar but used a turkey instead.

    The 22 is a very very lethal round, but is not a good defensive round. The fact that it is a slow moving round though it may penetrate through an adult body the chance of the bullet hitting a vital organ or an artery is lessen.

    In my opinion a good defensive round must be able to deliver a huge amount of hydrostatic shock that may incapacitate an attacker immediately. The 22lr does not do that, but it is better than nothing if that is all you have. You must also realize that if you do not buy reliable ammo, rimfire cartridges are notorious for misfires.

    You feel lucky? Take the chance.
     
  7. Red Cent

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    I would think 10 rounds from a 10-22 across 20-25 feet would be devastating. If you have a 25 round mag that works, all the better.
     
  8. Hocka Louis

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    The short answer is no (and how I voted). The long answer is a) a .22 LR is better than nothing and b) the Velocitor is the Best-in-Class, period, IMO.
     
  9. Warp

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    .22lr is good for defense...against zombie rabbits
     
  10. Warp

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    :rolleyes:
     
  11. Warp

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    Right...."almost". Certainly not all

    ALso, good luck hitting a one inch moving target repeatedly. 4 times a second...ROFL
     
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    I've not used the Velositer in my 22lr haven't seen any. My 22 likes the Rem. round nose gold, is very accurate with them. Will not shoot any of the hyper velosity stuff, guns are like women, what they like they like, what they don't like you can't make them.
     
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    Relatively speaking, yes. It's far from ideal but it would be more effective than internet lore suggests. It would certainly be the best load to use in the .22LR for such a purpose. Armed with a reliable 10/22 with a Ruger or TI 25rd magazine loaded with Velocitors, you would be FAR from helpless.
     
  14. Warp

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    My goal isn't to be far from helpless, but rather to be bet-my-life effective
     
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    Mine as well but some folks don't have as many options as I do. For you can sure as hell defend yourself with a squirrel rifle but it's really tough to hunt squirrels with a Glock.
     
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    22lr Velositer

    I'll have to try some in my Rem. 581 and Ruger Mark lll Target, when i find some.
     
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    Sorry Gents. I just can't see the .22LR round of any kind being even a marginal SD/HD round. They just don't have sufficient power. I wouldn't even trust my .22 Mag revolver for this.
    Fortunately, I don't have to. :evil:
     
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    Like I said it is a very very lethal round.
     
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    Check out the Aquila Intercepter which is marginally faster.

    Personally I have no hang ups over the .22 LR as a defensive round as long as one is aware of the limitations in terms of penetration - both of intermediate barriers and hollowpoints in soft tissue. In that regard a solid at 1,450 fps is about as good as it gets with a .22 LR.
     
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    I say no.

    Lethal? Very.

    It lacks stopping power. Fire it from a pistol with lower velocities, and it's lethality is further lessened.

    Still beats a sharp stick in the eye!

    If it were all I had, I would run with it...but not with hollow tips. With penetration being somewhat questionable, I'd take my chances with a solid bullet.
     
  22. Orion8472

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    There is a youtube video of the Velocitor out of a pistol and rifle, shooting into ballistics gel. Out of the pistol, there was a small bit of shock wave. Out of the rifle, on the other hand, . . . MUCH better. It looked pretty impressive. So, I would say that if you only had a .22lr, the Velocitor would be one of the best choices, . . . especially out of a rifle.
     
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    I voted yes, but the correct answer is probably "it depends". Out of a rifle length barrel, high velocity 22LR rounds are nothing to sneeze at. The problem that I can see with the Hyper Velocity hollow point rounds is that they have a tendency to break apart on impact. Like ForumSurfer said, go with 40 grain solids.

    I like the Aguila Interceptor 40 grain solid points. Not the most accurate but a good performer in the heavy solid point arena.
     
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    Break into my house & I pop you with this, see if they don`t pack you out on a stretcher with a sheet over your head.
     
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  25. Warp

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    Depth of penetration...expansion?

    The pressure wave of a .22lr isn't going to do anything
     
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