CCW and Public Restrooms

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I remove the firearm from the IWB and hold onto it while I lower my trousers and shorts. Once I am seated I place it in the crotch of my shorts/jeans until my business is done and reverse the process. On numerous occassions while in the seated position there have been some loud/rowdy sounding people enter the restroom and on these occassions I felt very secure even though I was in a very compromising position.
 
By hanging a pistol (presumably a glock) by its trigger guard on a hook, a local policeman actually discharged his gun in the bathroom stall. It was all over the news.:banghead:
 
I remove the pistol and set it on the paper holder. Most of them either have a good flat side, or the roll itself will hold the pistol nicely. I do this extremely rarely, like less than once a year. I try to keep #2 restricted to home, and I can't carry at work.
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This is a bad idea. Trust me.

See this: http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=4123210&postcount=35

I remove the firearm from the IWB and hold onto it while I lower my trousers and shorts. Once I am seated I place it in the crotch of my shorts/jeans until my business is done and reverse the process
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^ this is what I do now.
 
MachIVshooter said:
As well as being an incredibly unlikely scenario, the chances of being able to successfuly accomplish such an endeavor are pretty minimal. The average bathroom stall is wide enough that the would be theif would have his arm in your stall up to or past his elbow, at a level that virtually requires he lay on the floor. Then he would have to, at that funny angle, be able to draw the weapon up out of the holster and pull back quickly enough that I don't grab his hand, break his arm and then drag him under the stall partition and proceed to beat him within an inch of his life. Would probably give him a swirly for a grand finale.
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Not sure if it was on THR, but I remember reading of an incident or incidents where the miscreants reached under the stall door, yanked the occupant off the throne and partially under the door, then relieved said occupant of wallet, watch, cell phone, etc.

And you plan to visit this destruction on the perpetrator with your pants around your ankles? Good luck with that.
 
Leave it in the IWB and put it in the back pocket. Lower the britches, do my business, and you can't help but remember it's there when you pull the britches up. No one sees it because it's in the rear pocket, you can't forget it because it weighs your britches down.
 
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Oh man, there´s quite a few rather funny pics in my mind now :)

(Not to the anonymous Restroom-Builder: Please install holster-hangers.)
 
Not sure if it was on THR, but I remember reading of an incident or incidents where the miscreants reached under the stall door, yanked the occupant off the throne and partially under the door, then relieved said occupant of wallet, watch, cell phone, etc.
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While I don't doubt a few such isolated incidents, I should think the odds aren't much greater than being hit by falling airplane parts. I have never read of such an assault in my 27 years. Rape in bathroom stalls is far more common.

And you plan to visit this destruction on the perpetrator with your pants around your ankles? Good luck with that.
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5'10", 190 pounds and < 11% body fat. Any little stinker feeling froggy enough is welcome to try his luck. Perhaps they'll get what they're after, but I suspect not. Either way, it's not your place to speculate about my capabilities.
 
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I carry with an IWB. When I drop trou I hold the weapon and holster in place on my belt with my strong side hand as I sit. Once I'm properly aligned for the firing of torpedoes I hook the waste band of my underwear over the grip of my pistol. It's held in place next to my knee with zero drama. It's also readily accessible if I need it. If I'm going commando I re-hook the top button of my pants after dropping trou and push my knees apart enough to hold the weapon and holster in place next to my knee. I would never, in a thousand years, take off a gun and set it down in a public restroom. A hundred people (that just used the toilet) have touched that TP dispenser since it was last "cleaned"..... :what:
 
1) Go at home.

2) Unholster and keep at low ready (see leg-grab scenario above)

3) Practice twirling the gun with trigger finger (a la western gunslinger)

4) Use the front sight to scratch your ex's phone number onto the stall wall

5) Drop it on the toes that are tapping underneath the stall next to you

6) Dryfire practice at stall door (please unload first)

7) Juggle your cell phone, wallet and firearm so as to keep all three off the floor

8) Wrap in an entire roll of toilet paper

9) Build a suppressor out of the toilet paper rolls and then shoot what you have left behind right out of the bowl

and 10) Keep your Glock in your waistband...no really - it's safe!

:evil:
 
i havent figured out the quote feature yet so in reference to stealing it wil its still on my belt.

if they drag you out it dosent matter where it is there gonna get it.

i am not so large as to need to sit straddling the can so my feet and pants are neatly in front of the can so it is a long reach to my gun, then in my sherpa holster they have to relese it to get it out.

also while sitting there my 380 in my ankle holster is extremly accesable to me.

so yea, someone laying on the floor tring to steal it would probly turn into yet another stall rape. remember rape is just insertsion so good thing the 45 is stainless cause it will need a good boiling when i get home.:D
 
A different note about CCW and public restrooms... in between stages at an IDPA match this weekend we were talking about CCW and restrooms, and one guy had a friend who carried and was still mugged in a public restroom. He carried in a fanny pack, the bad guy hid in a stall and ambushed him from behind, and got the fanny pack off of him before he knew what hit him. And, the bad guy had an accomplice standing at this sink who came out of the woodwork to help subdue the victim. Luckily the friend wasn't shot with his own CCW... stay alert and safe out there!
 
I had to read that twice to figure out that the mugging didn't happen AT that IDPA match.

Keeping alert when your concealment isn't the best (fanny pack on a non-tourist) or you are OCing is always a good idea, but a dedicated mugger still has the element of surprise and choice of location.
 
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I carry with an IWB. When I drop trou I hold the weapon and holster in place on my belt with my strong side hand as I sit. Once I'm properly aligned for the firing of torpedoes I hook the waste band of my underwear over the grip of my pistol. It's held in place next to my knee with zero drama. It's also readily accessible if I need it.
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I was about to describe doing exactly the same thing. I don't like the idea of removing and replacing my pistol/holster in a public restroom. Doing it this way is as easy as can be.
 
Years ago at a Cowboy Action Shoot we had a scenario where we were in an outhouse, on the throne. At the beep the door was thrown open and we had to shoot 10 targets with revolvers, 10 targets with the lever gun, and 4 with the side by side...all from the sitting position! It was one of the most fun scenarios I've ever shot.
 
Most restrooms anymore have those big double roll dispensers, so I just lay it on top. MI is an OC state, so I could care less what someone sees under the door or side, nor do I give a rat's if anyone hears me snapping it back into my OWB, as they're gonna see it when I come out anyway. I just always remove it from the holster because it makes re-dressing easier, and so I can keep it securely behind the arm that's resting on the roll dispenser.
 
ghoster said:
so yea, someone laying on the floor tring to steal it would probly turn into yet another stall rape. remember rape is just insertsion so good thing the 45 is stainless cause it will need a good boiling when i get home.:D
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Thats the most disturbing thing I have read in a while. :D


I carry IWB. I remove the gun, hold it in my off hand, drop trou, and then place the weapon on to the inseam of my pants. This is an extremely rare occurrence; have to be at Defcon "2" for this to occur in a public restroom.
 
Reminds me of a story about my old friend from childhood who was an ATF agent for awhile.

He visited my house once and took a dump.

After he left, I noticed a really nce S&W hammerless lying behind the stool.

I kept quiet and next day got a sheepish call asking if I had seen his piece, anywhere.
 
He left the stool, too?
Gross!

I had to do an "armed drop-off" today, and taking an extra second to think about it got me a stall with no easy access to the right side. Unfasten, drop, refasten ... a good gun belt will keep your IWB vertical, I assume it would for an OWB rig as well, but I've never had one to try with.
 
Put it on top of the toilet, or take it off your holster and put it in your pants. Geez
 
All of this handling of your CCW is completely unnecessary and asking for trouble. Leave the loaded pistol in its holster! Let you pants ride higher up while doing #2 to keep it from view. Besides, who cares if someone sees it under the stall. Most people are oblivious anyway. All this handling I'm reading about is just asking for trouble.
 
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