CCW around your neck?
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I've been using this Comp-Tac neck holster to carry a Kel-Tec P32 since 2005.
http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=45
Nice holster (excellent retention, construction, comfort, & finish) and totally effective. You do have to vary your draw stroke based upon what type of shirt/sweater you wear.
Thinking about getting another one for my LCP.
http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=45
Nice holster (excellent retention, construction, comfort, & finish) and totally effective. You do have to vary your draw stroke based upon what type of shirt/sweater you wear.
Thinking about getting another one for my LCP.
Onward Allusion
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NAA Mini or Kel Tec P32 or P3AT perhaps. A S&W 317, er no way... Also, for the P32/P3AT it would have to be with an empty chamber.
The last thing I want if I have to use my gun is having it attached to a rope around my neck. I would imagine the average self defense situation is a pretty high stress enviroment and pulling on a rope around my neck doesn't seem like the ideal situation
Just a silly thing for a CCW to do.
However I know where this idea came from. Criminals. I've seen many a photo of various style of guns carried like this. I guess the thug thinks its less likely an officer or victim will think they have a gun there, or it will be missed on a pat down.
The last photo I saw some felon had a short sawed off 12 ga. with pistol grip (sawed off full stock) single shot, hanging down his back from a rope around his neck.
However I know where this idea came from. Criminals. I've seen many a photo of various style of guns carried like this. I guess the thug thinks its less likely an officer or victim will think they have a gun there, or it will be missed on a pat down.
The last photo I saw some felon had a short sawed off 12 ga. with pistol grip (sawed off full stock) single shot, hanging down his back from a rope around his neck.
They are... and lanyards around necks are a trade-off (deep conceal versus access). But, just like clip-on ties for cops, it's easy to mitigate getting choked or leveraged by a lanyard with this holster. Simply thread two short loops of break-away ID chain through the holster...one through each lanyard hole...then run the lanyard through the chain loops. That has worked for me.
This carry is also handy for a lot of females to position under or between the breast area.
IMHO, neck carry is a location for a BUG. Not primary CCW or open carry.
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There's also a technique used by neck knife fans to prevent the lanyard from becoming a potential strangulation concern. Pull the gut-strings out of a length of paracord, thread a ball-chain through the through the now-empty "parasleeve", secure the sleeve (melt, wire tie, thread wrap) ~.25" from both ball-chain ends. So you've got the advantage of a break-away chain with the comfort of a smooth cord. But I don't like the idea either way. I think I'd rather be without a BUG than have to have it pointing up my nose for quick access. But I'm not an LEO or double-naught spy.
I keep having two pictures flash through my mind...
One is a guy, presented with a situation where he needs to draw his neck-holstered firearm and ripping the buttons off his shirt, to confront the bad guy well armed and bare chested... sounds like a cheap romance novel cover...
The other is using one would be a pretty direct violation of barrel discipline. Think of what the barrel is pointing at, at any given time using something like this... chin, arms, or, um, "down there"... you really like having a loaded firearm pointed at ol' faithful? Its kinda the same reason I don't like bra holsters... one, they're darn hard to present from without taking too long and looking like a floozie doing so (the last thing the bad guy sees is my hooters???) and two, in an AD situation I'd be the one gutshot... not a pleasant idea...
One is a guy, presented with a situation where he needs to draw his neck-holstered firearm and ripping the buttons off his shirt, to confront the bad guy well armed and bare chested... sounds like a cheap romance novel cover...
The other is using one would be a pretty direct violation of barrel discipline. Think of what the barrel is pointing at, at any given time using something like this... chin, arms, or, um, "down there"... you really like having a loaded firearm pointed at ol' faithful? Its kinda the same reason I don't like bra holsters... one, they're darn hard to present from without taking too long and looking like a floozie doing so (the last thing the bad guy sees is my hooters???) and two, in an AD situation I'd be the one gutshot... not a pleasant idea...
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beeenbag
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too bad in my case it would be more like larry the cable guy doing a hulk hogan shirt tear.
Nothing would be worse than being over takin by "the bad guy" because you couldn't get your shirt tore off fast enough. That would be embarrassing. Then again you could over take the bad guy with humor as he watched this.
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The objective is to be armed, having a gun hanging on your neck is not the perfect method 100% of the time the same way OWB, IWB, SOB, Appendix, Shoulder, Underwear, Ankle or Pocket won't work all the time.
If you are in sweats or gym clothes of some sort it is as viable as any and from an untucked loose cover it is far from inaccessible.
The type of small gun that can be carried this way is far from optimal but also far from being unarmed.
If you are in sweats or gym clothes of some sort it is as viable as any and from an untucked loose cover it is far from inaccessible.
The type of small gun that can be carried this way is far from optimal but also far from being unarmed.
Why would you be likely to have an ND with a DAO pistol having a purposely designed heavy trigger?
Why would you have your trigger finger on the trigger before you've cleared the holster?
Any loaded and holstered handgun is going to have it's muzzle intersect with a part of your body at some time...that includes exposed duty holsters, shoulder holsters, belly bands, IWB, OWB, SOB, thigh rigs, appendix carry, cross-draw, ankle carry, vest mounted, pocket carry, fanny pack, Thunderwear, and just about any other means of carry.
If it's that much of a concern (and I realize that for some folks it is), simply carry chamber empty.
This.
Why would you have your trigger finger on the trigger before you've cleared the holster?
Any loaded and holstered handgun is going to have it's muzzle intersect with a part of your body at some time...that includes exposed duty holsters, shoulder holsters, belly bands, IWB, OWB, SOB, thigh rigs, appendix carry, cross-draw, ankle carry, vest mounted, pocket carry, fanny pack, Thunderwear, and just about any other means of carry.
If it's that much of a concern (and I realize that for some folks it is), simply carry chamber empty.
This.
NMGonzo
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I carry in my beard.
Like Chuck Norris.
Like Chuck Norris.
Dave Workman
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Gang, I had to read this thread twice before I stopped rolling my eyes, and that little neck holster for the Ruger is one of the screwiest ideas I ever saw, next to a holster in a pair of shorts I saw some years ago that had a muzzle aimed straight at the, uh, pour spout. I'm wondering if that one wasn't cooked up by some man-hating feminazi 
Just because something looks clever doesn't mean it isn't Bat@$!$ crazy in the execution and use.
As folks here know, I write about firearms one one level or another all the time. And neck carry of a defensive firearm is an idea whose time probably should never have come, IMHO. I've carried a gun in all kinds of places over the years, and taught armed self-defense a time or two and never would I suggest carrying a pistol from a cord around the neck.
But that's just me, and other peole may have different opinions.
Just because something looks clever doesn't mean it isn't Bat@$!$ crazy in the execution and use.
As folks here know, I write about firearms one one level or another all the time. And neck carry of a defensive firearm is an idea whose time probably should never have come, IMHO. I've carried a gun in all kinds of places over the years, and taught armed self-defense a time or two and never would I suggest carrying a pistol from a cord around the neck.
But that's just me, and other peole may have different opinions.
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Just wait until some rapper/football player/wannabe thug gangster tries this new method of carry.
Patiently sits back and awaits holster like this for a glock.
Nah I couldn't really see carrying a gun around my neck. I don't even like an ID badge holder around my neck.
As far as the lanyard retention thing and people thinking it went around your neck I got one better than that.
Friend of mine seen a photo in a gun magazine of a guy holding a 9mm with a light and laser on it and the curly retention cord and said "look that guys got so much lights and lasers on that pistol it has to have a power cable running up from his belt". I tried hard but I couldn't keep a straight face.
The OP asked if it were possible or practical to carry a ~10.5 oz (unloaded weight) revolver suspended from a neck lanyard.
It is.
More importantly, there are a lot of very small and extremely safe DAO semi-autos available today that can be carried the same way (in modern Kydex rigs).
The Ruger in the picture weighs ~9.5 oz (unloaded). A little P-32 is significantly smaller and weighs about the same when fully loaded . It barely prints even with a heavy t-shirt, polo, runners warm-up jacket, or sweatshirt.
Comp-Tac makes quality holsters and their neck model is well suited for its purpose. Several other manufacturers have been making similar holsters. Most of them have been around for years. I've used mine off and on for almost 7 years with no problems. To carry a Back Up Gun. Not a Primary.
If you need a backup gun, the system may work for you. If you don't need a backup gun...then probably not.
Some folks have found a viable need for such carry in environments where a backup gun is useful (or deep concealment is a requirement). If you are just CCWing for a trip to Wal-Mart, then perhaps it's not for you. If you have other duties, it is an option.
I'd personally not advise neck lanyard carry of that 617 revolver, preferring to go smaller/flatter with a holstered .32 ACP or .380 ACP, but it could be done. I'm not aware of any quality neck holsters made for that little Smith & Wesson, so I'd be leery of jury rigging a lanyard to it. On the other hand, I've carried a similar J-frame suspended inside loose trousers using the old shoelace rig (way back in the day).
People who are dreadfully afraid of shooting themselves with their chosen weapon probably need to reconsider their weapon choice, their level of training, and possibly even their decision to carry a firearm.
I tend to keep my instructor repertoire open to new concepts, realizing that everyone's situation is different, equipment evolves, and that some of the things I think I know aren't so.
Neck carry is a compromise, but one which has been around for ages. What has changed is the fact that there are now decent holsters available to facilitate such carry.
As the old Ranger School saying goes: "It's a technique..."
It is.
More importantly, there are a lot of very small and extremely safe DAO semi-autos available today that can be carried the same way (in modern Kydex rigs).
The Ruger in the picture weighs ~9.5 oz (unloaded). A little P-32 is significantly smaller and weighs about the same when fully loaded . It barely prints even with a heavy t-shirt, polo, runners warm-up jacket, or sweatshirt.
Comp-Tac makes quality holsters and their neck model is well suited for its purpose. Several other manufacturers have been making similar holsters. Most of them have been around for years. I've used mine off and on for almost 7 years with no problems. To carry a Back Up Gun. Not a Primary.
If you need a backup gun, the system may work for you. If you don't need a backup gun...then probably not.
Some folks have found a viable need for such carry in environments where a backup gun is useful (or deep concealment is a requirement). If you are just CCWing for a trip to Wal-Mart, then perhaps it's not for you. If you have other duties, it is an option.
I'd personally not advise neck lanyard carry of that 617 revolver, preferring to go smaller/flatter with a holstered .32 ACP or .380 ACP, but it could be done. I'm not aware of any quality neck holsters made for that little Smith & Wesson, so I'd be leery of jury rigging a lanyard to it. On the other hand, I've carried a similar J-frame suspended inside loose trousers using the old shoelace rig (way back in the day).
People who are dreadfully afraid of shooting themselves with their chosen weapon probably need to reconsider their weapon choice, their level of training, and possibly even their decision to carry a firearm.
I tend to keep my instructor repertoire open to new concepts, realizing that everyone's situation is different, equipment evolves, and that some of the things I think I know aren't so.
Neck carry is a compromise, but one which has been around for ages. What has changed is the fact that there are now decent holsters available to facilitate such carry.
As the old Ranger School saying goes: "It's a technique..."
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The Lone Haranguer
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I confess to this coming first to my mind:
However, Chindo18Z's posts explain it better.
Diggers said:
However, Chindo18Z's posts explain it better.
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dogtown tom said:
He must have meant 8+1 for the one in the chamber.
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