Macmac
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Voodoochile, I don't disagree with you at all really. I have 4 flinters that go boom every time, and when hunting I leave them loaded as is, for the season if i don't get shots.
A .75 Bess, .62 Nor'West Gun, .62 pistol I built from nearly scratch, and a sweet like .40 Kentucky. None of these found in stores..
I have 2 cap and ball, ROA, and a EMF 1970's 1860 Colt Army in .44.
Yes 5 rnds in these cap and ball only for me.. Hammer on the empty for me. No half cock notches either.
So I understand you. I know better than to fire bp off at the end of a day, unless I fired the gun, and loaded it again and must clean it. Like you my charges can last a year or untill I fire them and always they go boom.
I missed entirely the fact this isn't based on law, but then I don't understand since a cww is all based on law. Ok so no law.. no one cares that laws tie all this as one to ccw.
STILL the bad guy is likey to be armed with more than a wheel gun, and he will have magazines and can reload real fast, A lot faster than I can load any BP Gun no matter how fast I can go, and I can go pretty fast. Maybe 7 shots a minute in the Nor Wes gun and faster if I must with no patch. In order to do that I need paper catridges..
More and more the bad guy has a 30 rnd mag.. Still want the BP gun?
More and more, oh I can't go there... Hell yes i can, the jury wants to hear a familar word when it comes to a round.
So if you shot a bad guy with Joe Schmoes rocket wiz lightning bolt glow in the dark 12 ga round you are busted! Why because it isn't the same or close to the same as what police use.
About the police. I got stopped in Mass in transit and i was still dressed in 'SKINS' coming home to NH from an event in PA. On modern guns, not even Mass and NY can over ride Fedral law and i am free as a bird to go from any place with a modern gun to a event and back to a legal place.
I don't know it, but I figure this applies to BP guns as well. My .62 cal flinter was on the seat UNLOADED in plain sight, and my Nor West Gun was in the pick up racks in plain sight. Next to the pistol was a 15.5 inch 1/4 thick real honest to goodness old antique BOWIE.
I stopped off I-91 and Rt 2 where ever that is, in Mass, on my way home. I got food and water for my horse and the restaraunt was delited to have me spend money, and more than delited to give me 2 pails of water for the horse.
When I was done, I pulled out of their private parking lot and didn't get the trailer straight, heading back to I-91 north, and was BUSTED.
The cop all but chit himself when he saw the cab, but he somehow knew how I was dressed. He had me spread on the hood and entered the cab with out even asking, and then began to to meddle with the pistol trying to open it at the breech. He wouldn't hear one word, and the next thing he did was place the bore muzzel end first to his EYE!!!! Making a real long story shorter, I demanded to be let go or arrested after 45 minutes of being detained. More than several times he was so fixated on finding and discovering some reason to make his bust stick that I could have shot him with his own Glock, had I any mind to do so. I had been on the road 12 hours and had 5 more to go, so I finally just got sick of him and made my demands. Arrest, Badge Number, and SPCA.
This particular cop had no bee's wax and probably around even his Glock!
Had he shot himself thru the head with that .62.....
BTW I do have NH version of CCW, and I have several guns for that job..
In the case of this thread.. well I could see no real problem with either of my cap and ball guns stopping a man.. Would I even consider it when I have better guns suited to the task? NO way...
I guess if some how all modern brass cat'ridge guns got the grinder by the Feds, but the Feds still left BP guns for us to use, then I wouldn't have much choice.. I am aware that I can trust all my BP Guns. So then if this applies somehow, I would get a clone or a real colt in 36 as my main carry...
A .75 Bess, .62 Nor'West Gun, .62 pistol I built from nearly scratch, and a sweet like .40 Kentucky. None of these found in stores..
I have 2 cap and ball, ROA, and a EMF 1970's 1860 Colt Army in .44.
Yes 5 rnds in these cap and ball only for me.. Hammer on the empty for me. No half cock notches either.
So I understand you. I know better than to fire bp off at the end of a day, unless I fired the gun, and loaded it again and must clean it. Like you my charges can last a year or untill I fire them and always they go boom.
I missed entirely the fact this isn't based on law, but then I don't understand since a cww is all based on law. Ok so no law.. no one cares that laws tie all this as one to ccw.
STILL the bad guy is likey to be armed with more than a wheel gun, and he will have magazines and can reload real fast, A lot faster than I can load any BP Gun no matter how fast I can go, and I can go pretty fast. Maybe 7 shots a minute in the Nor Wes gun and faster if I must with no patch. In order to do that I need paper catridges..
More and more the bad guy has a 30 rnd mag.. Still want the BP gun?
More and more, oh I can't go there... Hell yes i can, the jury wants to hear a familar word when it comes to a round.
So if you shot a bad guy with Joe Schmoes rocket wiz lightning bolt glow in the dark 12 ga round you are busted! Why because it isn't the same or close to the same as what police use.
About the police. I got stopped in Mass in transit and i was still dressed in 'SKINS' coming home to NH from an event in PA. On modern guns, not even Mass and NY can over ride Fedral law and i am free as a bird to go from any place with a modern gun to a event and back to a legal place.
I don't know it, but I figure this applies to BP guns as well. My .62 cal flinter was on the seat UNLOADED in plain sight, and my Nor West Gun was in the pick up racks in plain sight. Next to the pistol was a 15.5 inch 1/4 thick real honest to goodness old antique BOWIE.
I stopped off I-91 and Rt 2 where ever that is, in Mass, on my way home. I got food and water for my horse and the restaraunt was delited to have me spend money, and more than delited to give me 2 pails of water for the horse.
When I was done, I pulled out of their private parking lot and didn't get the trailer straight, heading back to I-91 north, and was BUSTED.
The cop all but chit himself when he saw the cab, but he somehow knew how I was dressed. He had me spread on the hood and entered the cab with out even asking, and then began to to meddle with the pistol trying to open it at the breech. He wouldn't hear one word, and the next thing he did was place the bore muzzel end first to his EYE!!!! Making a real long story shorter, I demanded to be let go or arrested after 45 minutes of being detained. More than several times he was so fixated on finding and discovering some reason to make his bust stick that I could have shot him with his own Glock, had I any mind to do so. I had been on the road 12 hours and had 5 more to go, so I finally just got sick of him and made my demands. Arrest, Badge Number, and SPCA.
This particular cop had no bee's wax and probably around even his Glock!
Had he shot himself thru the head with that .62.....
BTW I do have NH version of CCW, and I have several guns for that job..
In the case of this thread.. well I could see no real problem with either of my cap and ball guns stopping a man.. Would I even consider it when I have better guns suited to the task? NO way...
I guess if some how all modern brass cat'ridge guns got the grinder by the Feds, but the Feds still left BP guns for us to use, then I wouldn't have much choice.. I am aware that I can trust all my BP Guns. So then if this applies somehow, I would get a clone or a real colt in 36 as my main carry...