CCW Clearance drills

[Sheldon J]

Just finished watching a video called “Way Advanced Concealed carry” and one of the drills is clearing your gun from concealment. Now almost all of us have done quick draw drills (hopefully some place safe) and fire on target. But how may of you have done this from concealment? I found out that I’m in need of more range time with this method, basically sloppy fumbling the shirt up, once one the grip I’m ok but this is one life saving drill we all need to do, so how many are practicing?

 

[Smoke]

My gun guru had me do these 'til my hands were shredded.

I don't do them that intensely during regular practice.....but I do them.

Smoke

 

[HighVelocity]

Every day before I walk out the door I draw a few times from concealment just so my brain knows that yes, there is a gun there and yes, this is how you get it without a fist full of shirt. A little self programming.

 

[yomama]

I've always felt this was of the utmost importance. I ususally practice doing this a hundred or so times a week at least. It would be a shame to get your hand or gun tangled in your clothing should you need to actully draw your weapon. After I've triple checked my gun is clear, and magazines are in a different room, I practice drawing and once weapon is on target, safety is disengaged and I dry fire it. I try this with all different kinds of shirts and coats that I wear. I also do this when at the place I go to shoot in the woods. Don't know if you could do this at a range, but where I live there are no ranges.

 

[Kamicosmos]

I need to practice much more than I do. I am very slow and fumble around alot trying to draw from my normal IWB under T-shirt and usually another shirt or jacket. I also practice doing a reload from my speed loader in my pocket. that is also terribly slow. I am a bit faster from OWB.

Most ranges around here won't let you practice draws, let alone draws from concealment. I have a friend with a private range, so i can practice on occasion, and I do practice my draws when I'm there.

 

[Sinsaba]

Funny I should come across this today. Was at the range today practicing just this very thing. All in all a very good practice session (went through 200 rounds).

1) stand ready
2) draw
3) present
4) fire 2 rounds
5) reholster

wouldn't you know it... the very last time I did it I grabbed the pistol. Tried to withdraw it from the holster. The Hogue grip (overall I love them) grabbed my shirt (I was wearing a suit) and almost flipped out of my hand.

Needless to say I was pissed ... so after recovering control of the gun I emptied the magazine into the target (IDPA) all of them in the -0 center torso. (did that sound like a brag? ) ... sorry, couldn't help it.

Anyway, I don't always practice that exclusively, but I do practice it some every trip to the range.

 

[mike benedict]

you should always practice with what you carry including the way you carry. If you shoot at an indoor range that will not let you draw, you are not getting much in the wa of practice. Ditch that place and join a gun club. where you can shoot outdoors.
Look on the USPSA and IDPA web sites for clubs in your area. and go visit a few.
I can always tell the shooters in my classes that only shoot at indoor ranges.
Because their gun handeling skills are lacking form lack of practice

Mike

www.talontactical.com

 

[Shel]

YES!

considering my Bersa Thunder jammed twice... DURING THE TEST

The instructor, took it and cleared it for me and set it back down on the table and said it's ready to go with the safety on. I appreciate him doing that for me, but I should learn how to do that myself... I seriously doubt in a gunfight, I would have a certified firearms instructor standing behind me.


Better yet.... I am thinking of ditching this gun (well actually trading in which is about the same as) and getting a good revolver.


By the way, I did pass the test

 

[Smoke]

Seems folks have a couple of different ideas about what a "clearance drill" is!

It ain't getting it out from under your shirt folks.

Smoke - the guy with band-aids all over his fingers.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Sheldon - you might want to refine your terms a little bit. Traditionally, clearance drills tend to be associated with clearing malfunctions of a weapon in order to get it back to action.

You appear to be discussing presenting the weapon or drawing from concealment. Most any good pistol school will teach you a proper drawstroke that can be used from concealment and if you haven't had formal training it is well worth the money.

I prefer the method where you rip the shirt high into the armpit with the weak hand while drawing with the strong hand and indexing towards the target just below the armpit level. As the muzzle moves toward the target and past the weak hand, I release the cover garment and grip the pistol with my offhand. This helps to keep my offhand clear of the muzzle during the draw.

The other positive thing about practicing your drawstroke is that it doesn't need to be done on a range and can be done anywhere there is a safe backstop (a tube-style TV screen makes an excellent backstop and can stop many rifle bullets).

 

[Shel]

Nevermind... I didnt read carefully

 

[Sinsaba]

Seems folks have a couple of different ideas about what a "clearance drill" is!

It ain't getting it out from under your shirt folks.

Smoke - the guy with band-aids all over his fingers.

Unless I'm misreading... the author of the poll specified that it IS about getting it from under your shirt. Therefore, I would have to say that for the sake of this thread, a clearance drill is getting it out from consealment.

 

[Sheldon J]

Unless I'm misreading... the author of the poll specified that it IS about getting it from under your shirt. Therefore, I would have to say that for the sake of this thread, a clearance drill is getting it out from consealment.

What they said.
"Clearing your garments in order to present your firearm on target" would just have been too long of a title

 

[William P.]

“Way Advanced Concealed carry”

HAHA

Is it concealed? Can you get to it? Can you get to a spare source of concealed ammunition?

How "Advanced" does it need to be.
Seriously I have been to more handgun schools than I can count and everyone teaches the BEST and ONLY way to do things. Cut the fat and do what comes easily and 99.9% of the time you are doing it right.

 

[Sam]

I think we figured out what he was talking about.

I make it part of my routine to practice from concealment, foolish not to really.
Not only that but odd positions too. If you carry you really need to.

Sam

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Every session I try to work on draws from concealment. When I compete, I draw from concealment as well even though it usually isn't required in the matches I shoot. Matches are a nice way to induce a higher stress level to see how well I can get on target while stressed. It isn't anything like real fighting stress, but it is more than I get simply practicing my draws from concealment.

 

[Zach S]

Its not routine, but I do practice it pretty often with an empty pistol, and my target is normally morning TV...

I can do live-fire practice at the range as long as it isnt too crowded (if its crowded, someone else tries, and proceeds to shoot the floor, ceiling, or wall - which is why it isnt allowed).

Something else to practice reloading from concealment. This I do on a regular basis.

 

[Sheldon J]

Its not routine, but I do practice it pretty often with an empty pistol, and my target is normally morning TV...

I can do live-fire practice at the range as long as it isnt too crowded (if its crowded, someone else tries, and proceeds to shoot the floor, ceiling, or wall - which is why it isnt allowed).

Something else to practice reloading from concealment. This I do on a regular basis.

Oh come on morning TV is boaring but... oh you said empty gun, never mind

 

[f4t9r]

I need to practice more
thanks for reminding me

 

[Fu-man Shoe]

Way Advanced Concealed carry

(***!?)

Was it "way extreme" or "totally tactical"?

I mean really. With a title like that, I'd have stayed "way"
far away. A fool and his money are soon parted though.

Fu-Man Shoe

 

[Sheldon J]

Well for starters the show opens with guy in front of mirror parcticing clearing and draw from under shirt, guy goes to C store, store gets robbed, BG 1 takes hostage, BG 1 points gun at guy, says give me car keys, guy throws keys at BG 1 keys land on floor, BG 1 distracted by keys, guy pulls gun and double taps BG 1 then dose same to surprised BG 2. Break to explanation of scene.

Took the wife to dinner, N meeting tonight about Mi new and improved Castle Doctrine, spent several minutes at mirror clearing and drawing, only snagged my hand 4-5 times. Moral to story need better CCW shirts, and much more practice.

 

[LET-CA]

My "babies"

Beautiful "children" you've got there. . .

 

[Ryder]

I like to do a full speed cold start when I go shooting and I do slow motion dry runs at home. It's not something I anticipate to be a problem in a real situation.