CCW discovered by a anti cop

[Jamie C.]

I had a cop threaten me with arrest for expressing an opinion. And I wasn’t even addressing the cop!! I asked him in a calm and polite tone “Are you saying that you will arrest me for simply expressing an opinion with which you don’t agree?” He said” Yes I will.”

Would it have stuck? No. Would I have had to spend money on an attorney anyway? Yes. Did I test the cop to see if he was serious? NO!

I for one would've had to ask under what charges.

Also, exactly what was the circumstances? Sometimes giving one's opinion isn't a wise thing to do, even though you might have a right to do it.

For instance, you have every right to voice your opinion, but not if doing so interferes with a police operation or investigation.

So, what was going on that got the officer to notice you, when you weren't even speaking to him? Could it be that the cop simply wanted you to shut up and go away, so he could do his job? Or was he honestly just being an ass?

Inquiring minds wanna know.


J.C.

 

[Gordon Fink]

But it also means you’re not concealed enough, which is something I’ve noticed with others who rely on a beltline carry and a light cover. Consider a deeper concealment.

Cosmoline, I have to disagree. Oneshooter had his get-out-of-jail-free card and used it for its intended purpose. If his concealment were so deep that he could literally never be discovered, he would never need a permit.

~G. Fink

 

[Phyphor]

I had a cop threaten me with arrest for expressing an opinion. And I wasn’t even addressing the cop!! I asked him in a calm and polite tone “Are you saying that you will arrest me for simply expressing an opinion with which you don’t agree?” He said” Yes I will.”

Same went for my uncle, who disagreed with a deputy whom was arresting one of my cousins (his nephew, not son, anyhoo... ) - the deputy got a little smart, my uncle (who'd been drinking) called him a "JBT mother****er" and the cop threatened to arrest him for drunk in public... on his own porch.

Might not have been my uncle's best decision, but that deputy'd been acting like a jackass the whole time, whereas the rest were all professional (and polite,)

 

[Jamie C.]

Heh... Phyphor, that one sounds like criminal stupidity, on the part of your uncle.

And yes, your front porch can be considered "public" in some instances.

Interfering with a police investigation, or Disorderly Conduct would've also been good charges, here in TN, and would stick in most courts.


J.C.

 

[DrewH]

Suppose the cop had said, "I think CCW is great"? It would make you (and I) feel good, I suppose. He had a different opinion and is entitled to it. You are going to have to face it, many people don't like CCW, cops among them. He was doing his job as Texas law stipulates, in checking the OP had a CCW, briefly expressed a personal opinion in a fairly mild way, and moved on professionally. If the OP felt like saying "I disagree", (which is kind of obvious), I very much doubt the cop would have gunned him down on the spot.

 

[JAB]

I think its fine to check for permit, etc. Thats his job, whether on duty or not. Like stated before, its better for him to request id after bumping gun than not addressing it and having something bad go down. However, he should be polite about it. I look at cops as my employees, since I and all other tax payers pay their salaries. Id have said the same as mentioned before. I dont pay for your opinions, I pay you to uphold the law. Thank you, your dismissed. I know this may sound rude, but thats the facts. Dont forget, they are paid to SERVE us. And I have friends and family in L.E. Thats my opinion. As for the freedom of speach bit, I am all for it. But if one of my employees makes a stupid, insubordinating comment to me, they best be ready for discipline...Rant off.

 

[Jamie C.]

I look at cops as my employees, since I and all other tax payers pay their salaries...

The problem is, they don't serve you personally, but the community as a whole. Their actual employer is the state, county, or city, depending on the department they're with.

So it's really unwise to try and treat them as your personal servant, and will generally lead to more trouble than it's worth.


J.C.

 

[TheFringe]

Sometimes producing a permit for a (bad) cop can have a beneficial outcome.

I drive a delivery route for a living and although I have had a clean driving record for 15 years, I was being pulled over on a regular basis by the same cop over an 8 year period. He never issued a ticket, but did not like me or my van for whatever reason. He was polite, but macho and built like a pit bull. I am a long-haired weekend rock musician, and this probably fueled his suspicion of me. Because I was only delayed but never ticketed, I did not object to this treatment and just rolled with it.

A year or so ago I got my CCW. Sure enough I was pulled over as usual by the same cop. "License, registration, and proof of insurance please....." I calmly handed him my drivers license then stated "I think you should see this too" and proceeded to hand him my CCW permit. His eyes bulged. "You carrying a weapon ?" "Yes sir. Left breast pocket of my coat" I fully expected him to ask for me to 'show it to him,' and would of course wisely had him retrieve it rather than reach for it.

Instead, he stated "Thank you Mr. Fringe, sorry to have bothered you today." He handed me both licenses and drove off. He has not pulled me over since despite seeing him a few times in my rear view mirror.

 

[Justin]

Four pages of discussion over one person's (misinformed and blatantly stupid) opinion?

That's got to be some kind of record.

Sheeze.