CCW for non-state residents

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Utah does not require one of their CCW holders to be a state resident, take the class and apply for theirs and pay the fees and you can have a CCW that is honored in 30 states. My friend sent me an email explaining it to me and that a place called ccwusa.com.

I can't use it an carry in Cali but when I travel I can. Please comments and suggestions are welcome should I take the opportunity to get a UTAH CCW? Basically stick it to the DPRK not carry here but carry when I travel out of state.
 
PA Con Permit

If you're like us pleebs in Illinois / Wisconsin that can have none --
the good Commonwealth of PA will send ya one for 26.00 good in about 21 states now. NO training - NO Picture - NO Prints. Took 9 days to get it back.
 
I am a Utah CCW Instructor, and yes it is that simple. Whatever your Instructor charges, $59.00 to the State for background check fingerprint processing, and @ 30 days later you have an "almost" universal or at least as close as they come CCW Permit. It's also good for 5 years. If you look into other States permits, be sure to check on that one minor detail. When I lived in New Mexico, their CCW was good for two years and I believe it was $50.00 to renew, on top of a mandated refresher class. Not counting the $150 (I believe) initial application fee plus a mandated 16 hour class (I'm all for training if you're going to carry). They "allowed" you to get one, but they sure didn't make it cheap or easy. They didn't have Non-resident when I lived there anyway. As for Nevada, yes, you can get a Non resident permit there, but you have to physically appear to apply and process. Too much B.S for me, as they aren't recognised in Las Vegas and other areas of Clark County, and it seems to me that would be the most likely place you'd need it anyway with all your gambling winnings :D . Before anyone flames me, I know it's a State issued permit, but the powers that be in Vegas (the $$$$$$ ones) have a lock on it and believe me, you DO NOT want to get caught packing in Vegas with a NV or anyone else's permit. Just food for thought folks. Utah and Florida are about as good as it gets for reciprocity related isses. They're both "relatively" easy to get and cheap (perspective based).
 
One caution on the Utah non-resident (or resident, for that matter) - unless it has changed recently, you have to take the training from a "Utah certified" instructor. There are (obviously, from rmmoore's post) certified instructors in other states, but they may or may not be anywhere convenient for you.

For just that reason, I went with Florida's, but YMMV....:D
 
Non resident CCW

Believe it or not the ultra liberal State Of Massachusetts has a non-resident CCW as does Connecticut. As mentioned previously, Pennsylvania. All are fairly easy to get. Florida is probably the easiest and best one to get.
 
the good Commonwealth of PA will send ya one for 26.00 good in about 21 states now.
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If you live in a state with no carry law, such as Illinois or Wisconsin. Or if you have a carry permit from your home state. Since he doesn't have a California carry permit, he isn't eligible for a Pennylvania carry permit.
 
one other thing about UT

Utah requires two letters of reference . . . I believe PA non-resident does not, but PA residents need two references on their application.

Total BS; does anyone ask for two references when registering to vote? Or going to the doctor?

I got my two Utah permit references when I needed them, but now both those guys are deployed and have bigger things to worry about than sending letters of reference to me from an FPO.

Other than these two guys, I am NOT comfortable with anyone else knowing that I applied for a CCW permit, because all my other buddies definite antis. Security clearance? These antis would have no problem being a reference. CCW permit? "I don't feel comfortable doing that?"

How many people may be in my boat and screwed because they don't have the "right" sort of reference pool?

Utah is a great permit for reciprocity, but I guess it is better than NOT having that option at all.
 
SCS,

Definitely check out calguns.net. I remember a few members posting information on classes for UT and FL CCW permits. There are a few threads over there that can be useful to you.

In my opinion, if you travel regularly... definitely go for it.
 
Also, if you apply for a nonresident permit, don't apply in Clark County if you have an option (Las Vegas area), as the wait times came be extreme. Nevada law states that the sheriff may take up to 120 days, and Metro usually takes all of it, and in fact, I have heard others take even longer (For no good reason- I applied in February 05, and it took 90 days. But, on the permit, the date of issue is in February, only a few days after I applied). It is much better to go to one of the smaller counties, as the wait time isn't so long. I'm not sure about Washoe county (Reno area). Us residents don't have a choice, we have to go to the sheriff of our home county. Also, according to handgunlawus, the training class has to be taken in Nevada, in addition to the requirement of applying in person. The classes are frequent, and many are Miltie-state, meaning that the instructor is certified elsewhere, usually Utah and Fla. Also, FYI, in Nevada, you have to qualify
with each gun that you want to carry, and it's listed on the back of your permit. There's no limit on number of guns, but each requires qualification (I have 5 on my permit, with more to come). It relates only to model, not the specific gun. Mine says XD 45, not XD 45 (service), so the tactical and compact should also be covered. But I also have 2 Glocks, and I had to qualify on each-G19 and G26. Qualifying isn't difficult. Standard silhouette targets. You shoot at 3 distances, and each is timed. You shoot 6 shots, reload, and shoot 6 more. On the first stage, 3 yards, you shoot 1 handed right hand first, reload, and shoot 6 more left handed. The other 2 stages, 7 yards and 15 yards, can be either hand, or 2 hand. Each stage is timed for 1 minute, passing is 270 ( I don't recall, but I think that the max is 320 or so (it's too late to do the math).

As far as letters of reference for Utah, that's interesting. I received my Utah nonresident permit last year (got it, and Fla before the Nevada permit arrived, and I mailed both the same day I applied in person in Las Vegas). I don't recall any letters of reference, as a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that it wasn't required. May be an older (or newer) reg.
 
Neo-Luddite said: If you're like us pleebs in Illinois / Wisconsin that can have none -- the good Commonwealth of PA will send ya one for 26.00 good in about 21 states now. NO training - NO Picture - NO Prints. Took 9 days to get it back.
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A non-resident of PA with a PA permit is only good in more like 16 states. Others require you to be a resident of PA for your permit to be valid in their state (like Florida).

And, PA will not issue a permit to a non-resident that doesn't already have a permit from his home state - unless that state issues NO permits. In May Issue states, you are ineligible unless you managed to get a permit from your home state.

Utah is a good state to have. Its inexpensive, and the renewal is only $10, no prints needed, no class again. Just the renewal application.

K-Romulus said: How many people may be in my boat and screwed because they don't have the "right" sort of reference pool?
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This really isn't the appropriate time to complain about a state's application requirement for references. Don't highjack the thread.
 
Some states may honor an out of state CCW, but only if you are a resident of the state issuing the CCW. It's best to check the laws of the states you are planing to visit or travel thru.
 
Hello folks, yes, there USED to be a requirement for two letters of reference for a Utah CCW Permit. That has changed and is no longer the case. Neither is the requirement for a revolver and/or semi qualification listed on the permit. If you're trained in one, you're trained for both. I taught/teach my classes for both quals anyway, so for my students it was a moot point. There are Instructors in a large number of states teaching Utah CCW classes. If anyone out there is near Rock Springs/Green River, send me a PM and we can discuss a class :D . I'm more than happy to answer any questions you all may have, I've been teaching CCW (Utah, ex-New Mexico) for about 5 years now and have never had an applicant rejected (2 were delayed, but they did get their permits). I consider proper screening of applicants part of the process. If you're going to spend your money, and both our time, make it worthwhile!!!!!!!! Utah has joined the countless millions and now let's you even pay by credit card. What a country, finance your CCW license :neener: . Ain't America great?
 
The Utah app is nice. One double sided page, reverse side is nothing but information about the form. No refrences asked for. One picture, one print card, one form of payment. They even have a block on it to write in your CC info. The oddest bit is the big red stamp your instructor has to apply to it before they'll process it.

RMMoore -- too bad you're on the other end of the country. I'd love to double up on a few classes as an aide in polishing up my skills & methods. ;)
 
Sorry Amish Bill, but you're more than welcome to come on out to sunny, mmmm I mean, snowy Wyoming and we can do a little co-instructing together :D . Cowboy up partner, I'm sure it would be quite a change from Georgia!!!! I mean come on, it was only 6 for the high today, and maybe -3 or so tonight with 2 "more" inches of snow expected. You can only take those southern night 50's and 60's for soooo long :D. I grew up in South Alabama, so I know a thing or two about 'em. I gotta admit though, I do love the cold, snowy winters. And, as an actual relevant thought to this thread, it's great for CCW'ing a full size, full power hand cannon :evil: . Or, so I've heard, but I'll never tell :neener: .
 
That's one of the reason's I miss PA. The light jacket as a constant comanion made all kinds of shoulder-holstery possible and practical. :D

I'll have to see if any of the trips I'll be tagging along on this year come near, and if they do, and you have a class for then, I'll look at taking a detour. Thanks.
 
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