CCW in the bathroom

[NozlerAtClemson]

Ok, CCW = Concealed Carry Weapon, so...

If I use a stall in a bathroom that doesn't have floor to ceiling walls (just about all of them), someone in either the adjacent stalls or outside can see my USP40c in the Galco concealable belt holster or my spare mag on the other side. This is the same with any holster besides a shoulder holster.

What are the legal problems of this? What do you do about this? We all know that some sheeple freak at the sight of a gun.

 

[Cosmoline]

Do you mean the walls only go up a few feet or something? I'm having a hard time picturing the facilities in question.

 

[dischord]

Most people will probably just think you're a cop, but if you're worried, take off the holster belt and hang it on the coat hook before dropping trou and sitting down.

 

[Gray Peterson]

One thing.

I can picture it, because I'm rather tall. I can if I go up on my tip toes see over the walls.

That being said, I don't know what to suggest.

 

[bjengs]

I'm quite sure he means that there is the gap between the wall of the stall and the floor, you know how you can sometimes see the guy's feet in the next stall...

Hmmm...this isn't a troll question, is it?

 

[benEzra]

I think he's talking about your neighbor seeing under the walls, since there is usually about a 1-foot gap between the bottom of the wall and the floor (so the cleaning people can wash the floor more easily).

Simplest solution is not to lower your belt below your knees, and hang onto it so stuff doesn't fall off. (You can just loosen your belt but leave it fastened.) Leave it resting just above your knees. If the belt is loose enough, the holster can be rotated forward on the belt so that the pants cover it.

Practice this at home first! And be careful . . . there's that story of the police officer who accidentally dropped his .45 in the toilet . . .

 

[sorny]

This is why I have a Don Hume clip on holster for my .40 Kahr. You can take the gun and holster off, together, in a split second, do whatever while holding the holster/gun in your hand, lap, whatever, then when you pull your pants back up you just slip the holster back in and take a second or two to adjust, and you're done. Couldn't have anything but a clip IWB holster now.

 

[Dex Sinister]

This is the same with any holster besides a shoulder holster.

I'd have to disagree there. While in general you're correct, I prefer a below-the-waist holster like PagerPal for that exact reason. My Kahr K40 stays nicely hidden the entire time.

With a slight bit of manipulation, one can even remove one's pants and never actually show the weapon. I inadvertantly had to test this a couple of months ago <chuckle>: I'm on the campus of a northern California university, and I wandered into the Health Center to have them look at my leg, without thinking beforehand that I was carrying.

When the nurse-practictioner asked me to take off my pants, I just took them off while holding the top of the hoster & belt, and folded them up. She certainly didn't appear to notice, either when I took them off, or put them back on.

As for my spare mag, I use the "purloined letter" technique, and carry it on my belt in a brand-identified horizontal knife sheath: It fits nicely there, and raises no eyebrows at all.

Dex }:>=-

 

[NozlerAtClemson]

It was the gap between the floor and wall I was talking about.

And no it isn't a troll question. Saturday me and some friends went to the mall (yeah, I am young and in college but I only carry off-campus), I went to the bathroom and then asked them the same question. They couldn't stop laughing. They know I carry and they are fine with it even though they are not gun people. They have heard me complain about the problems with carrying but bathroom humor about guns was too funny.

 

[BerettaNut92]

I'd put the gat in the stinky part of your underwear. It's between your legs so the other guy can't grab it (without getting his fingers stinky from your panties), and there's no way you're gonna leave the bathroom with your HK giving you a wedgie.

I wouldn't leave it on the deck or hang it on the hook or on the TP box.

 

[Preacherman]

Of course, there are other hazards involving bathrooms and firearms...

 

[Jonesy9]

that's what i love about this place, people answer any question. before you ask Clemson, the next step is to keep wiping until you don't see anymo........

 

[NozlerAtClemson]

I would stick it in my drawers but I am not sure that is what HK meant by "Hostile Enviroment" finish.

I never thought about much about the assumption about being a cop until I read this quote from Mad Ogre's site:

"Don't worry, he is a cop. You can tell because he has a holster."

 

[BerettaNut92]

Should this be in the Strategy & Tacticality forum?

ANyway, the HK finish should hold up. My bathroom is a hostile environment like no other. The tiles are falling off the wall because of the stench but the P7 only shows holster wear.

 

[El Rojo]

This is a good question. I always carry my Glock 27 Mexican Carry in my wasteband. So when I go to the bathroom I either stick the gun on top of the TP dispenser or I put it in my front pocket. You could always do the same thing and just let your empty holster hang down with your pants. Technically since you are not displaying the weapon, it is no big deal. Sure someone might report a guy wearing an empty gun holster in the bathroom, but last I checked that wasn't against the law.

I like inside the wasteband carry. It is so much easier to conceal.