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CCW on the bathroom floor

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Grayrock, Jun 21, 2005.

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  1. Grayrock

    Grayrock Member

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    Just encountered a new sticky situation. I have been carrying my weapon for the last year or so in a SmartCarry holster- very well hidden. I recently purchased a Fobus OWB paddle holster. It is more comfortable, and easier to use. I was at a store and the call of nature hit me. I found the men's room and an empty stall and promptly dropped my drawers (and my holstered weapon) around my ankles. Looked at it a few minutes (the gun, that is) and then it occurred to me that anyone coming in could see it laying on the floor attached to my belt. What is the best way to handle such a situation? Take it off and hold it in your hands in the stall (the gun, again :) )? Step out of your pants and hang them on the door? Keep your pants around your knees instead of ankles? What's an armed guy to do? What do YOU do?
     
  2. torpid

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    Climb up on the tank, stand backwards, and then [CENSORED].

    ;)

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  3. mattw

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    unless it's going to be a photo-finish, why not just take the belt and holster off and hang that on the door?
     
  4. Shorts

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    Well anytime we need to use the facilities, the pants drop. So, when I'm carrying, as soon as I get the stall door locled, the gun comes out of the holster and either put on the back of the tank, or if I'm wearing a jacket, I take the hacket off, hang it, and the gun goes in the pocket.

    I don't care if anyone sees the holster on my belt. For ladies know, it's a cell phone case. And if a lady does know what it is, she's probably firearm friendly (or knows from her hubby) in her thinking.
     
  5. Elkslayer

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    Do what I did.

    Get a colonostomy and you don't have to drop your drawers! :D
     
  6. hnm201

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    Grayrock, to answer your question, the solution is not as cumbersome as holding your pistol in your hands or removing your pants. It's pretty simple, really. Intead of completely undoing your belt you need to simply loosen it and let it provide the tension needed to keep your pants off the floor and your gun and holster in an upright position.

    1. Unbuckle your belt and move the buckle's tongue to the last or next to last hole your belt.

    2. Spread your feet apart just enough so that your drawers stop or catch just below your knees when you drop them.

    3. Sit on the commode. You should be able to put tension on your belt and carry rig upright by keeping your knees spread apart.

    4. Do what you came there to do. If some one peeks under the stall they should see nothing but your pant legs and shoes and should not see your belt or rig.

    Practice at home. Soon you'll find yourself doing this whether you're carrying or not (pta meeting = no carry). Using this method keeps your pants from coming into unnecessary contact with dirty public bathroom floors.
     
  7. Werewolf

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    Paddle holsters are easy enough to take off and put on. What I do is just take it off the belt and then place the weapon - holster and all in my pants on the floor. It's pretty easy to tuck it down inside a pant leg so it's completely hidden. AND - I guarantee you won't forget it like some guys do who put the thing on the back of the toilet tank or on the paper holder.
     
  8. grimjaw

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    Am I the only one who thinks it's a little bit silly to have a thread on a firearms forum where grown men are telling other grown men how to use the bathroom? ;)

    Joking of course.

    Have a better day!
     
  9. 41mag

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    If you do decide to take the holster off make darn sure that,unlike a few cops every year,you remember to take your gun with you when you're done! :)
     
  10. ocabj

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    Bad idea. Hanging bags, purses, and other items on the hook of the stall door are primary targets for thieves. While you're taking a nice relaxing dump, some guy walks in the bathroom, reaches over the stall door and grabs whatever's hanging on the door/hook and takes off.
     
  11. BerettaNut92

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    I'll post pics of what I do.
     
  12. thereisnospoon

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    What a Counrtry

    I'm pretty sure that this has got to be the greatest Country in the World. Where else could we openly discuss the how tos of crapping with a concealed weapon. I love America!

    BTW, I use a paddle holster or a PagerPal and both are easily removed and placed inside the pantleg/pants to disguise/hide, but not forgotten.


    Great Thread :p
     
  13. 2nd Amendment

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    Yep, that's it. Pull the plug on the in-tra-net, Al. I have now read it all. :D
     
  14. Werewolf

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    Thank you so much for that... Folks two offices over are asking what the hell I was laughing at! Busted...

    Oh well - I make it a point to have a good belly laugh or two each day and the above gave me one of them. :D
     
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    I, for one, don't drop my pants to the floor in a public restroom because I don't want my pants (let alone my gun) touching the floor ... blech :barf:


    Just pull your pants down to your knees (and rotate the gun around to 3 O'Clock if its at 4 or SOB).

    The pants will be far enough down that they don't touch the bowl (double bleh) and they don't touch the floor, and your gun is within real easy reach should you need it on the john.


    Better yet, just hold it 'til you get home ;)
     
  16. Amish_Bill

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    Drop them just past your knees, spin the waistband 90%, let the belt & holster fall inside the waistband bewteen your shins, use the pants to hide it.
     
  17. dfariswheel

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    While most people don't think of these things, and others laugh, many police academies give specific training on this.

    There are many stories of police officers sitting in the john only to have someone reach over the partition and grab a gun off the coat hook, or under the stall and grab a gun off the floor.
    Thieves have been known to follow cops into the john for a chance at a gun, or just be looking under the stalls to see what they could grab and see a gun.

    In any case, the gun owner is in no condition to dash out and chase the thief.

    Many departments train cops to remove the gun, and while sitting, place the gun in the "sling" formed by the crotch of your pants.
    This holds it securely, and keeps it off the floor, out of sight of sneak thieves.

    Most departments train cops to NEVER sit there, holding the gun in your hand.
    Stupidly, people don't pay attention, and accidentally fire the gun.

    Even putting the gun on the floor between your feet isn't good, since no one ever expects someone to just reach under a stall that far to grab something, but thieves do it all the time.
    This happens so fast, even though it's between your feet, it's gone before you can react.

    Hanging it on the door hook is worse, since the thief is on his feet and already has a running start.

    Another hazard of the door hook, is the potential for an AD.
    One cop had an incident when he hung his Glock on the door hook by the trigger guard.

    When he reached up to take it off, he inadvertently pushed it upward, activating the trigger.
    The gun fired, and he lost his grip.
    Under recoil, the gun spun around on the trigger guard, and the trigger was activated again.
    The gun basically went full-auto as it spun around the hook by the trigger guard emptying the magazine.
    Fortunately no one was hurt, but the cop never again stored his gun on a hook.

    So, best technique: Remove the entire holster if possible, and just the gun if not, sit down, form a sling with your trousers, and put the gun in that "pocket".
     
  18. Mr. James

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    'nospoon,

    Man, that was hilarious - because it's true. Where else would this subject even come up? In England? South Africa? Brazil? Japan? Methinks not. Quite truly, "only in America..."

    Anyway, I never, ever let my pants hit the floor if I can possibly help it. Dominic has the best solution. It works, and does not entail unnecessary handling of a loaded firearm in cramped quarters.

    If your particular rig won't work in this approach, then use the BVD sling. You did put on clean undies today, right? :scrutiny:
     
  19. Cosmoline

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    Use the Ninja method!

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  20. Standing Wolf

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    The vast majority of public rest rooms aren't very clean or well lit, and far too many are "decorated" with moronic graffiti.
     
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    Obviously not a former Boy Scout. KIBO!

    Speaking of photo-finishes, this almost made me piss my pants. The cop probably never lived it down either. Thanks for that dfariswheel :D
     
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    Oh no... here we go!
     
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    IF it was true, bet he emptied his bowls along with that Glock... :what:

    What a way to overcome constipation...
     
  24. Matt G

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    With boxer briefs, use the panty-hammock. ;)
     
  25. Shield529

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    You all are missing the best idea.
    1. Remove holster and gun from belt.
    2. find seat cover despenser, behind toilet most times.
    3. place Fobus over lip of despenser.
    It will hold firmly just like the belt.

    Or just go into the stall with the baby changing tables inside the stall and put it in the table and close it.
     
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