CCW Perfection (IMHO)

[Dean1818]

I purchased a Kahr CM9 two weeks ago for those days that I wanted to quickly throw a pistol in the pocket or go for a jog.

I already have a M&P 45 Compact, which is an awesome, comfortable firepower for IWB CCW.

I went to the range with WWB and 50 rounds of Tula

On the initial break in of the Kahr I had a 2 FTE, and 1 FTF. The FTF was a Tula that had a deep dimple in the primer, but the round didnt fire (Cheap ammo?)

The FTE and FTF all occured very early within the first 100 rounds

The second 100 rounds all fired flawlessly as the little pistol began to break in.

The Corbon DPX all fired flawlessly as well.

The pistol is MUCH more accurate than I am.

I love this gun and trust it fully.

Also........ I bought a Remora pocket holster and mag holder as well.

What a fantastic holster..... It also is great for IWB as well (no clips)

AND..... it DOESNT move, even without clips. The mag holder is also great
as it allows me to carry a spare mag in my back pocket (feels like a
second wallet)

AND....... bought the Crimson trace for the pistol..... also a good purchase


Anyone looking at small 9mm pistols should consider a CM9.

It was my top choice after looking at many brands.

All in All, happy with my decision, AND...... again I am glad I bought everything from companies with products MADE IN AMERICA!!!

 

[franco45]

I have been extremely happy with my CM9 also. As the op stated these little guns are extremely accurate for their size. The felt recoil is surprisingly minimal for so small a gun.

 

[hardluk1]

Covered very well. cm9 in my pocket.

 

[Dean1818]

I also noticed that by round 200 i could slingshot the slide......

 

[hardluk1]

My cm9 does not allways slingshoot a long bullet like the 124gd but will slingshoot all the fmj and hornady cd along with 115gr gold dot. But it allways runs fine useing the slide release. Thats after closer to 800 rounds. the CW9 sling shoots everthing i have tried when i got it used.

 

[Jbabbler]

Kahr, like Taurus, makes some awesome carry guns if they work. Sadly, 3 of the 5 Kahrs I have owned had to go back to the factory for major rework. My two MK9's were the only ones that worked as advertised. The good news is, the ones that failed failed early and obviously. If you can fire 200 rounds through yours you are in the clear.

 

[Dean1818]

It seems like Kahr is quietly improving thier designs.

After reading the boards and even running a poll, i would guess
17 or 18 out of 20 people get their Kahrs running well.

They are a small tight gun that DOES need some initial TLC to improve the odds
Of getting a winner.

Anyone considering a Kahr should read the stickys on Kahrtalk before shooting.

Before shooting:

1) Rack the slide 500 times

2) Clean the gun

3) Lube the gun liberally per the sticky on Kahrtalk

4) Shoot quality USA made ammo for 200 rounds to break it in

5) shoot some of the JHP that you will carry to ensure it feeds

You should be good to go

I believe some folks get their new kahr from the factory and go right to the range.
Then they complain about having FTE issues.

You do have to break these pistols in, and because they are so tight, they do need to be lubed.

The fact is, every gun manufacturer has lemons. Go to Glocktalk...... There are people
There that bash their Glocks.

Though I would still rate Glock a step ahead of Kahr, but its a few percentage points only.

A Kahr is a great, high quality choice for CCW.

To me, there isnt a better, medium cost option that will actually fit in a pocket AND actually be able to draw it out without contorting your body, and taking 2 minutes.

Everyone should have at least one!

 

[rooter]

On the initial break in of the Kahr I had a 2 FTE, and 1 FTF.

I also noticed that by round 200 i could slingshot the slide

They are a small tight gun that DOES need some initial TLC to improve the odds
Of getting a winner.

Anyone considering a Kahr should read the stickys on Kahrtalk before shooting.

Before shooting:

1) Rack the slide 500 times

2) Clean the gun

3) Lube the gun liberally per the sticky on Kahrtalk

4) Shoot quality USA made ammo for 200 rounds to break it in

5) shoot some of the JHP that you will carry to ensure it feeds

You should be good to go

None of this sounds even remotely close to ccw perfection to me. Kahrs are overpriced underperformers. If Kahr pistols require this much attention to perform, Kahr needs to add a division of monkeys to perform this "reliability ceremony" BEFORE Kahr pistols go out the door and into a customer's holster.

Though I would still rate Glock a step ahead of Kahr

Me too, by a wide margin.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

When you buy a carry gun, it should be able to reliably shoot decent ammo right out of the box. If you must perform a bunch of different remedies, such as racking it 500 times before you can trust it, you need a different gun.

They are a small tight gun that DOES need some initial TLC to improve the odds
Of getting a winner.

Anyone considering a Kahr should read the stickys on Kahrtalk before shooting.

Before shooting:

1) Rack the slide 500 times

2) Clean the gun

3) Lube the gun liberally per the sticky on Kahrtalk

4) Shoot quality USA made ammo for 200 rounds to break it in

5) shoot some of the JHP that you will carry to ensure it feeds

You should be good to go

The only people who should be reading that list are the quality control folks at the Kahr factory. Those are things they should do before they send the gun out to save lives.

 

[Dean1818]

I guess we will agree to disagree.

My EDC selection is my M&P 45 compact.

Its fits role as CCW and range gun, with plenty of firepower.

When looking to select a second pistol for when the M&P didnt fit, the
choices really arent many.

My criteria:

Semi auto
Light
Truly Pocketable
At least 9mm
USA made
$500 or less

With these options, there arent alot of choices.

Some of the others met some of the criteria, but had horrible triggers.

It took all of 36 rounds to get the last FTE out of the Kahr.
(i have a hard time blaming the pistol for the FTF, that occured on a Tula round
That had a deep dimple from the firing pin.)

I trust both pistols 100 percent

 

[m2steven]

I have 3 Kahrs and I've never had a single problem. They are beautiful precision instruments. They are truly accurate and easy to shoot. They are manufactured to very tight tolerances. I have read tons of posts of people getting a Kahr and having a feeding problem or two in the first 100 rounds or so and then perfection. If the folks at Kahr give their customers the straight dope on doing a bit of shooting prior to relying upon the pistol - good for them. Even better that most of their pistols work exactly as described.

Many of the pistols I've owned got worse with use. My Kahrs only seem to get better. They function perfectly, but they do lose the "sluggish" recycling feel they have when new.

Glocks are loose as a goose when new. The only advice I'd give to any Kahr owner is if you carry it often - check it out every week or so and make sure it's still properly oiled and not full of pocket lint. Mine have always worked dry with pocket lint, but they are much happier a bit oiled and lint free. And you probably won't want to go mud bogging with a Kahr and expect it to work like a Glock might. Loose has it's advantages.

 

[kokapelli]

I have three guns I will never sell and two of them are Kahrs.

 

[JDGray]

I have a much larger CW9 for carry, and have found it to be perfect for me! Shoots like a fullsize pistol, accurate as hell, light weight, full grip, love it!