CCW while Driving

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Ok, so I’ve been carrying concealed for about 4 months now and I have a question. What do you do with your sidearm when driving?

I strongly believe in using seatbelts, but that seriously limits your options when needing to get at your handgun, if you keep it on your person. Even though I make it a general practice to avoid tough areas, I recognize that you could be accosted at any time, so I want to be ready.

Thanks!
 
I drive a pickup and so not too bad - in a car I would have a problem.

Normal carry is 3.30 but when I get in and belt up - I pull rig (OWB belt side) fwd to 3 o'clock - this puts gun far enough fwd that I can reach - albeit not the fast draw when standing but adequate.

Maintaining good con' yellow should mean that if things feel bad, you can draw and plave piece between legs for instance.

Some folks like rigs attached to door, or elsewhere - this can be useful. Also the one time a sho rig comes into its own is driving tho I don't use one much these days. Oh and also a spare rig on belt left side could be set to suit cross draw - perhaps the best option for some.
 
There is a square hole in the center of my dash under the radio. I guess it's for a CD player or somesuch. It has a plastic box inside it so you can toss items in it (I used to toss my cigarettes in there). I just pulled it out, cut out the back of it, and screwed in an el-cheapo holster that will keep the gun from flopping around. My radio sticks out pretty far, so it's invisible unless your head is on the seat. It's really not all that hard to find a spot like that in almost any car where you can attach some kind of holster. Under the steering column is popular, too.
 
dk-corriveau said:
Ok, so I’ve been carrying concealed for about 4 months now and I have a question. What do you do with your sidearm when driving?

Nothing different.

Everyone's personl situation is unique, but unless one spent long periods of time behind a wheel, moving the pistol from place to place doesn't do much for you but make you more comfortable. Is comfort the subject of your question, or accessibility?

9 times out of 10, your right foot will get you out of more trouble than your handgun. Most trouble can be thwarted by the simple act of keeping the doors locked. The concept of preclusion makes getting involved in an altercation when driving a vehicle hard to justify. Meaning, if you had the means and opportunity to extracate yourself from the situation without jeopardy or risk to safety, you should. Sitting inside steel and shatter-resistant glass narrows the definition of opportunity.

Aside from conjuring up the most uncommon of scenarios, very few circumstances will warrant the escalation of an interaction to the use of your handgun.
 
+1 for BullfrogKen

Not to hijack the thread here, but I noticed Bulfrog lives only about 20 minutes away from me. Send me a PM sometime. We'll hit the State Gamelands Range in Dillsburg together one of these days :)

-38SnubFan
 
I notice that my gun is easily accessible when seated w/ the seatbelt on if I am wearing at 3:30 or so. Maybe you skinny guys are the ones having a problem.

Greg
 
Hume JIT is a vertical belt slide that can be used cross draw. Great for driving.

Easy on and off if you reverse buckle on belt, now you can slide the JIT on the belt in seconds, and strong side gun can be moved to crossdraw for travel.:)
 
Strongly advise AGAINST placing gun between legs. Sudden stop may send gun to floor. Also, in this case - where is the weapon pointing?

Didn't some of the FBI guys in FLA do this prior to the Miami shootout, and wind up losing control of the weapon when stopping the bad guys? I'd be more afraid of the AD/ND when weapon is aimed at Mr Happy more than loosing the gun in a crash, but either case......
 
Depends on the day. If I'm spending most of the day in the car then I wear a shoulder holster. If I'm in and out, I have a slide holster screwed into the transmission tunnel in my car and I just stick the thing in there. It's strong side that way, and hidden well enough by the seat.
 
Maybe you skinny guys are the ones having a problem.

Hey, I'm 5'10" and only about 160#, and I have no problem accessing my gun while attached to me when driving (and I'm talking about the one on my hips, just to make that clear to all the smart-alecks in this thread)! :p :neener:

-38SnubFan
 
Depending upon the weather (summer vs. winter), I find that the seat belt affects my access to the weapon increasing as the temperature decreases. the best bet with a coat on is the shoulder holster, especially if you wear a long coat that you end up sitting on. Another option I have heard of from many cops I work with is teh ankle holster. Seated in a car is one of the very few times when an ankle holster may prove faster than a belt rig, as you can quickly access a weapon holstered in the inside of your left ankle, and you can keep it readily accessible by pulling the left leg back closer. Of course, if you are driving a manual, you might find this difficult. And if you are a lefty, you might just be better off fighting the seat belt.
 
This is another reason I'm leaning towards a shoulder rig.
It'd be a lot easier to get to while sitting down, and I sit down a lot. >____>
But then again, it seems like it'd be harder to conceal than IWB.
 
Since you live in VA you can carry openly anywhere in the car. My G19/G26 is either always on my hip, in the center console, under my seat or even laying on the passenger seat. Mostly it stays on my hip or in the console since the best way to handle an SHTF situation is to avoid it initially, and in my car I can avoid/evade most situations easily before they escalate to the point of having to worry about drawing my sidearm.
 
Hi there,

Try a crossdraw holster when driving and wearing seatbelts. You can arrange your carry piece and the holster so that it is more practical and comfortable.

The combination really works for me and I cannot stand wearing a strongside/right hand holster when driving.

Chris
 
Perhaps you can buy a holster just to clip on to the seatbelt? I read somewhere on Glocktalk about a guy doing this. I believe open carry is legal in VA.
 
Crossdraw

I'm a big advocate of crossdraw for vehicle use if your primary holster doesn't get it done for you. Lots of advantages. Shoulder holsters are O.K. if you're one of the lucky few who get one to fit comfortably. I'm not. :(
 
Keep it in the holster at the 3:30. Always figure when I quit driving to get ou, I am going to do it in a violent way, e.g., crashing another vehicle. Then I willl need to not wonder "Where in the cockpit did my weapon fly?"
 
FIST makes a great car to crossdraw holster that is relatively inexpensive. They also have IWB to crossdraw rigs too that can fill this niche.

I also believe that Sam Andrews makes a car-crossdraw rig that has gotten high reviews from folks in the know.

The Hume M715 w/ snaps is a straight cant IWB that functions passably as a cossdraw for car use. Just unsnap and reposition.

My fist inclination though, is to go with BFKen, and hit the gas pedal. Over a ton of metal generates more ft/lbs than any handgun bullet.
 
I used to be concerned about my ability to access my weapon while in a vehicle. I always made sure my covering garment went over the seatbelt and I never had an issue. I spent a few hours sitting in my garage and practicing my draw stroke. Of greater concern was striking the steering wheel when addressing a threat on the driver's side.

Overtime, I had the opportunity to get some training and to put that training into practice. I had an overseas deployment where there was considerable attention focused on how to deal with a threat when you are in a vehicle. Based on my experience, I am not sure being able to access your firearm in the vehicle is as big a deal as I once thought or everyone seems to believe it to be.

As has already been mentioned, driving out of a problem is generally your best defense when in a vehicle. Leaving yourself enough room to maneuver, adjusting your mirrors properly, locking your doors and remaining alert will provide a greater degree of safety than a special "car-carry" holster. Even the smallest cars have a surprising amount of power that can be used to remove you from a bad situation. I had the opportunity to observe an older chevette push a Ford Expedition about 40' into an intersection from a dead stop. (Both occupants were uninjured.)

If I am in my car and I need to access my weapon, it is probably because my vehicle has been disabled. Exiting said vehicle will be a priority and a pre-requisite of exiting the vehicle would be to remove the seatbelt, eliminating the issue.

Try this:

When entering your vehicle:

1. Lock doors (you have now placed a barrier between you and a potential threat but you retain the ability to access your weapon.)
2. Start vehicle and place in gear (you can now drive away from a problem; this is now your primary method to deal with a threat requiring deadly force)
3. Seatbelt on (restricitng access to your weapon) I frequently put my seatbelt on as I pause to exit the parking lot, not in the parking space.

When exiting your vehicle:

1. Seatbelt off (improving access to my weapon)
2. Vehicle in park, ignition off (weapon is now my primary method to deal with a threat requiring deadly force.)
3. Unlock doors and exit vehicle.

My apologies if I wandered off-topic.
 
Blackhawk 6 said:
When entering your vehicle:

1. Lock doors (you have now placed a barrier between you and a potential threat but you retain the ability to access your weapon.)
2. Start vehicle and place in gear (you can now drive away from a problem; this is now your primary method to deal with a threat requiring deadly force)
3. Seatbelt on (restricitng access to your weapon) I frequently put my seatbelt on as I pause to exit the parking lot, not in the parking space.

When exiting your vehicle:

1. Seatbelt off (improving access to my weapon)
2. Vehicle in park, ignition off (weapon is now my primary method to deal with a threat requiring deadly force.)
3. Unlock doors and exit vehicle.

My apologies if I wandered off-topic.
Sounds good to me.
+1
 
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Accesability isnt bad in my F150 or my Caprice. My Fairmont, with 89 mustang seats, is a different story, but its in pieces at the moment so its not an issue. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

I depend on my driving skills to get me out of bad situations while in a vehicle.
 
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