CDv2 Review

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I'd seen pictures, and hefted the unfinished version, but I finally picked up my completed Camp Defender, version 2 Monday night before a couple of days of camping with my girlfriend before our deployments.

The Camp Defender was beautiful, and feels great in the hand, though not as choppy as I'd expected. It really feels more like a large fighter, which does have some advantages. The G10 scales feel very nice, and look amazing, but being thinner, don't have the incredible 3-D feel of the thicker micarta scales. The sheath fits snugly, yet draws smoothly, which must have been a bit of a challenge with an unconventionally shaped knife like this. Changing from a vertical carry to a horizontal carry took about two minutes. I don't like horizontal carry for concealing knives, but it works on a large knife like this. At about the 10 o'clock position, edge down, the Defender can be easily accessed and drawn overhand with the right, or underhand with the left.

I discovered at the camp site that my cooking utensils were not in my girlfriend's bins of camping materials- because I used them grilling on the patio and never put them back. :eek: The Defender was about to get a more extensive workout than I'd planned!

The Camp Defender was used to
o shovel ashes
o move logs and sticks in the fire
o slice meat
o turn and press pancakes, bacon, venison steaks, eggs and even hash browns

It did most of these things surprisingly well, with the wide front making it a natural as an improvised spatula. The only thing it had a problem with, was the little potato bits in the hash browns. That really needed an extra utensil, or a dedicated spatula. Slicing meat with the Camp Defender was incredible- I have never used a more effective meat slicer. Ever. We'll get back to this. ;) It also zipped through some cardboard *easier than a utility knife*!

Last night, I chopped some smaller pieces off some sap-heavy pine, to use as kindling in the morning, when it was supposed to be wet. This was tough stuff, the next best thing to a rock! I'm not a big fan of batoning, but I batoned the CD through a few pieces. The blade was noticeably duller afterward, but still cut hair. I then carefully examined the edge. There was a teeny-tiny nick missing. I conclude that Sam put too fine an edge on the Defender, which led to that incredible slicing performance on the venison steaks, but which also is easier to damage. I've already talked to Sam about this. Easy enough fix. I'm sure the nick will come out in a single sharpening- it may be as thick as a hair- it's next to the "dot" in the dime.

The GunKote held up pretty well. It does show a little wear on the spine where it was repeatedly beaten through the pine log, and that secure sheath of Sam's can also cause scratches if debris is caught between the knife and the sheath. If someone wants this knife as a display piece, this won't be an issue: they can put it in a stand, and it will stay pristine forever. If someone wants a user, I don't think they'll have a problem with honest wear. For my part, I know I've already used this knife more than some other knives I've paid 2-3x as much for. It would be hard to be much happier with it. :)
 

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Wow. High praise, indeed! I'm so very pleased that it has held up well!

I didn't think about a horizontal carry position, though that would make for an easier draw. I determined that there was one orientation (at least) with the Tek Lock that would allow it to hang at a cant, (maybe 60 degrees?) and that's probably how I'd intend to carry it. However, I considered later that I could probably leave more of a flange in the kydex at the mount location and do a second row of holes (maybe staggered) to give almost infinite mounting positions.

As we discussed, I think moving from a 25 deg. bevel to a 30 deg. one would give the edge more resiliency for chopping.

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The only thing it had a problem with, was the little potato bits in the hash browns.
I do feel shame at my knife having failed to perform one of the true cornerstones of "bushcraft" ...! :neener:
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Now, for our next test, I'm going to need a meat bicycle... :D
 
Want Hi polished finish on my original version along with the contoured canvas Micarta handles. Go ahead and sharpen the thing up, I have an axe!
 
And, that is a very valid point, Gordon. Sam's going to default to the sturdier edge on the v2, and ask customers if they want the sharper, thinner edge on the livelier v1. That pine was tough stuff! Batoning through it felt like abuse to a good knife, honestly. :(
 
John,

Do you think a thicker scale would have made for better use if you had been forced to go through extended chopping/hacking?

Sam,

A 30 degree bevel angle is common for choppers to keep the edge from rolling and chipping, but heat treating for toughness is often as important as getting that ultimate edge. It is easy to have an edge get a little brittle if hardness is pushed to far for a chopping application. See if someone can rockwell your edge.
 
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Mike,

I don't mean to say that the G10's not substantial. It is. It's possible that the micarta scales might have made for easier chopping. (I did swing the piece of wood against the ground with the knife embedded, several times.) The micarta scales on the v1 just make it one of the absolute best-feeling handles I've ever felt.

I considered the hardness, as well, but it seems more likely to me (pulls the blade out, checks. Yep) that's it's a thickness issue. This knife out-razored a razor on cardboard. It out-sliced a butcher knife on meat. There's no way to do that, that well, with a really sturdy edge.
 

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5 minutes with the Sharpmaker set to 40' edge took the nick out, though the CD isn't now as "scary sharp" as when I got it. The more I handle this knife, the more I like it. Somehow, it flows in the hand more like a fighter, despite the blade shape.
 

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Somehow, it flows in the hand more like a fighter, despite the blade shape.

That's more a function of the balance point than the blade shape. I'd bet money the balance point is on the index finger or just in front no more than a finger. A knife that feels like a chopper would be three to four fingers forward.
 
Yep. But, one expects a balance point further forward with a weight-forward blade shape.

(ETA: I designed the CDs to be powerful choppers, and expected the weight to be a couple inches forward of the guard. But, my v2's balance feels so good, I can't be upset that it's not further forward.)
 
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Hefty

Wow, John.

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It's a good thing you don't like big knives.

Point of reference: My "big" knife is the little brother to the smallest one in your photo.

Holy hacking, Batman!

 
Met with a friend in Alexandria today. We played with a lot of knives. My friend really liked the Camp Defender, saying it was a great balance of solid/big enough, but not too heavy to carry, and that it felt great. :)

The combination of razor-sharp edge and extremely dense wood seemed to indeed have been the problem. I experienced no issue during or after chopping wood today. :)

To put the size in perspective, the HI at the end doesn't qualify as a "knife" in my book!
 

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Public Service Announcement

WARNING: The Camp Defender feels good. Very good. So good, in fact, that handling one may lead to swinging and quick-drawing it. Should this happen, fasten the Camp Defender securely on your belt before proceeding. You have been warned.




No, this is NOT me.
 

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