Chandler, AZ Police Detective says, "call 911 and leave home"

[AZRickD]

"Police discourage self-defense home invasion shootings, Chandler police
Detective Frank Mendoza said."

This rival's Phoenix PD mouthpiece Randy Force (yes, that's his name), in anti-self defense stupidity.

You can tell Detective Mendoza what you think by calling him at...

Detective Frank Mendoza
Public Information Officer
Office 480-782-4106

Rick

http://www.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/1217cr-shoot17Z6.html

Break-in suspect is shot
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 17, 2005

A Chandler homeowner shot and wounded a man who was trying to break into his house near Dobson and Pecos roads, police said.

Police gave this account:

Sagio Maurice Henry, 35, of Chandler, rang the doorbell of Cary Dennis' home around 1 p.m. Thursday, and then went to the back door, where Dennis saw him. Dennis went to get a weapon and returned to find Henry prying open a window.

After startling Henry, Dennis chased him outside and ordered him to stop. When Henry brandished a pickax handle, Dennis shot him once in the chest.

Henry fled on foot and later was picked up by police at a Valley hospital. He was taken to Maricopa Medical Center, where he is receiving medical attention for non-life-threatening wounds in the jail ward.

"I am kind of still shaken up," said Dennis, who works in after-market auto parts. He would not talk further about the incident.

Police discourage self-defense home invasion shootings, Chandler police Detective Frank Mendoza said.

"We don't recommend handling things this way," Mendoza said. "Given the situation, he had plenty of time to call 911 and leave the home."

Once his condition improves, Henry will be booked into Maricopa County jail and charged with one count of burglary, Mendoza said.

Police are not pursuing charges against Dennis, Mendoza said.

That number again...

Detective Frank Mendoza
Public Information Officer
Office 480-782-4106

 

[Pilgrim]

"We don't recommend handling things this way," Mendoza said. "Given the situation, he had plenty of time to call 911 and leave the home."

It must be something they put in the doughnuts in Chandler.

Pilgrim

 

[Rexrider]

That is a somewhat disturbing response from an AZ city's Detective. There are plenty of other cities in this country I would expect that kind of statement, but not from around here.

I guess it goes to show you not even AZ is immune from this kind of "attitude".

Edited to add:

"We don't recommend handling things this way," Mendoza said. "Given the situation, he had plenty of time to call 911 and leave the home."

Sounds to me that the intruder had plenty of time to leave. And it should be the intruder who needs to leave, not the home owner.

 

[strambo]

Sure, I'll get the baby up, gather the wife, start some coffee (for the perp) and inquire as to how long the intruder thinks he'll be just in case the police don't show up.

 

[El Tejon]

El Tejon urges police detective to call unemployment agency and leave badge on desk!

As an aside, now who is really going to do this sort of break-in in friggin' GWR!!! Talk about "suicide by crime", geez, I'd rather taunt rattlesnakes than break into a house in some states, GWR is among the top 3 not to do this in.

 

[carp killer]

"We don't recommend handling things this way," Mendoza said. "Given the situation, he had plenty of time to call 911 and leave the home."

That's like a cop telling a woman not to resist a rapist.

 

[TMAS]

"We don't recommend handling things this way," Mendoza said. "Given the situation, he had plenty of time to call 911 and leave the home."


And given at the time of this situation, did the good guy know that there was no one else outside, like 2nd or 3rd Bad guy by the door?

 

[jsalcedo]

That's like a cop telling a woman not to resist a rapist

Thats been the official policy up until recently.

They say, to avoid being killed: submit to the rapist and do not make him angry because he may decide to hurt you.

This "don't fight back" policy has been touted by psychologists, feminists, media, police spokespersons, and politicians for decades.

The cops who are out there each day usually tell people to get a gun.

 

[Strings]

>They say, to avoid being killed: submit to the rapist and do not make him angry because he may decide to hurt you.

This "don't fight back" policy has been touted by psychologists, feminists, cops, and politicians for decades<

You forgot the "please wear a condom" part... that's really important...

 

[raghorn]

You might try calling his boss' bosses at City Hall, too.

 

[George S.]

And I'm sure that Det. Mendoza would follow his own advice if he was in the same situation

 

[critter]

I used to work with a guy who had a philosophy something like this. He said, "I don't like to fight. I'll go a long ways to avoid a fight. BUT, after I have run all the way home, if you still want to fight, I'll give you the best I have and you'd better bring your lunch cause it is going to be a good one!"

I'm with him!

 

[AZRickD]

Calling his bosses at City Hall?

What a novel idea...

http://www.chandleraz.org/

http://chandleraz.gov/ServiceRequest.html

http://www.chandleraz.gov/default.aspx?pageID=245

Rick

 

[OnDuty]

After going through an excellent CCW class in AZ the last thing I would do is force a confrontation. I would of left the house if possible or *found a good defensive point inside my home.

*Pecos/Dobson is not terribly far away from the Police Department. From within my home I would have called 911 (leaving the Pd on phone recording everything) and given commands like "drop the weapon" and "stay back the police are on their way" From my experience, if the Pd knows about a weapon being involved they send the cavalry!

 

[OnDuty]

AZ DPS stuff about shootings (legality)

http://www.azdps.gov/ccw/version11-1.pdf

 

[Standing Wolf]

Every time we back away from criminals, we merely encourage them to enlarge the scope of their predations.

Keeps cops in pay checks, I guess.

 

[gc70]

I don't exactly agree with the police advise, but I don't exactly disagree either.

If someone is trying to break into my house, or has already done so, here is what I would do: get a gun; call 911; and yell to the BG that I had called the police. If the BG wants to leave, that's good - I avoid official hassle and post-shooting home clean-up. If the BG wants to visit with me personally, my wife will get her wish for new carpets in part of the house.

In short, I will not go out of my way to shoot or kill someone, but I will oblige anyone who presses the issue.

 

[whm1974]

This "don't fight back" policy has been touted by psychologists, feminists, media, police spokespersons, and politicians for decades.

All this does is encourge crimimals.

The cops who are out there each day usually tell people to get a gun.

The same officer will tell you diffence things off duty then when wearing a uniform. Or on TV.

-Bill

 

[Flyboy]

"We don't recommend handling things this way," Mendoza said. "Given the situation, he had plenty of time to call 911 and leave the home."

I live in a second-floor apartment with one exterior door. Am I required to shake my burgular's hand as I walk out, or will tipping my hat suffice?

I think somebody is way overdue to read A Nation of Cowards.

 

[beerslurpy]

I hate to fight, but if ever there was a time and a place for a gunfight it is when people are breaking into your house.

The sanctity of the home is one of those things that has been with us since pre-biblical times. Those who would break the most fundamental taboos regarding the property and life of others surely deserve any harm that comes to them in the process.

 

[AZRickD]

I hope y'all are making the City of Chandler aware of your views.

Rick

 

[Lennyjoe]

I disagree with the detective.

After startling Henry, Dennis chased him outside and ordered him to stop. When Henry brandished a pickax handle, Dennis shot him once in the chest.

I don't think it was a good idea to chase down the perp either. He might be in for a civil lawsuit. Once the perp turned to run I would of called the cops.

 

[Biker]

Ya just don't mess with a dog in his own backyard.
Biker

 

[TexasRifleman]

Keeps cops in pay checks, I guess.

Ding Ding Ding!!! We have the right answer.......

 

[.45&TKD]

This detective's statement is stupid on a lot of levels.

My biggest concern about an intruder in my home when I am not there. or after I have left, is that he will arm himself better with the weapons I did not bring with me.

Sure, they're locked up, but given enough time these gun safes can be broken into. Especially with the tools I left behind also.