Charter arms warranty experience

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My brand new .357 target bulldog has been back for repair at Charter for 4 weeks now, they say it may be another 2 weeks for before it gets looked at. I was about to email Nick, but after reading this thread it seems like this long timeframe may be typical?
Normally not .. usually your 357 would be back ..
But they are so busy keeping up with orders ...
I ended up swapping my 44 Bulldog for a Taurus Tracker 44mag .. I just couldn’t warm up to it .. after all that stuff ... also I have a Boomer and a Pitbull in 40 S&W
I still like my Charters and after this crazy buying frenzy. Im planning on a few Charters to be added to my safe .... but I don’t see any gun purchases in the near future , until this frenzy is over and the stock improves
 
I sent one of my 3" adjustable sights six shot .38's back on Monday. Donna at Charter Arms is very pleasant and sent me an overnight label. It was received by them yesterday, 12/15/2020. This was the second time it had to go back. Its twin .38 is wonderful. This gun I sent back must be the red-headed step child. Very nice USA company. I'll post back the time frame I get it back, remembering it's the Holiday season during an election year and pandemic. 108AB9F0-085A-41AE-A7DA-3EEDBD35916B.jpeg
 
I sent one of my 3" adjustable sights six shot .38's back on Monday. Donna at Charter Arms is very pleasant and sent me an overnight label. It was received by them yesterday, 12/15/2020. This was the second time it had to go back. Its twin .38 is wonderful. This gun I sent back must be the red-headed step child. Very nice USA company. I'll post back the time frame I get it back, remembering it's the Holiday season during an election year and pandemic. View attachment 963030

Wow- I just got a text from Charter Arms, with my order number and the text said they received my gun and they would provide updates. Excellent!
 
Charter arms gets a lot of negative online and other places. The finish on most of their models is utilitarian. But they work, are reasonably accurate for their designed function of self-defense, Charter seems to stand behind them very well. The two that I've sent back to Charter have come back in less than a week and work well. I've spoken to Nick and Dee Ecker on the phone when I called and they both sound very engaged in their own manufacturing business. I don't feel under under gunned with a 44 Boomer in my pocket
 
Charter arms gets a lot of negative online and other places. The finish on most of their models is utilitarian. But they work, are reasonably accurate for their designed function of self-defense, Charter seems to stand behind them very well. The two that I've sent back to Charter have come back in less than a week and work well. I've spoken to Nick and Dee Ecker on the phone when I called and they both sound very engaged in their own manufacturing business. I don't feel under under gunned with a 44 Boomer in my pocket
Wow- I just got a text from Charter Arms, with my order number and the text said they received my gun and they would provide updates. Excellent!
I got a text as well, about 4 weeks ago. The update is about 2 more weeks before they can look at it. Being patient....
 
I have a Mag Pug, the worst investment I ever made. Shot 9" low at 25 feet, and after 250 rounds it decided not to ignite the primers in DA. I got a Wolff extra heavy mainspring and now it fails 30% or more of the time. Am just hoping for a local PD buy-back for cash, because I could not in good conscious ever sell it to anybody. They are a joke for anyone who shoots in any quantity.
 
Not the spring. Check firing pin protrusion. Could be transfer bar or hammer issue. Easily corrected.
 
Sorry to hear that. Dunno how hard hit they are with "closures" up their way. My last was sent in '18, just shot again it last weekend too.
 
I have a Mag Pug, the worst investment I ever made. Shot 9" low at 25 feet, and after 250 rounds it decided not to ignite the primers in DA. I got a Wolff extra heavy mainspring and now it fails 30% or more of the time. Am just hoping for a local PD buy-back for cash, because I could not in good conscious ever sell it to anybody. They are a joke for anyone who shoots in any quantity.

A quick call to the factory should start the ball rolling towards making it right. Lifetime warranty on the guns, regardless of owner. They paid my shipping too.
 
I have a Mag Pug, the worst investment I ever made. Shot 9" low at 25 feet, and after 250 rounds it decided not to ignite the primers in DA. I got a Wolff extra heavy mainspring and now it fails 30% or more of the time. Am just hoping for a local PD buy-back for cash, because I could not in good conscious ever sell it to anybody. They are a joke for anyone who shoots in any quantity.

Asking price?
 
The only "ongoing" issue that I have is my Boomer doesn't like my really light loads.... primer backs out a bit due to lack of sufficient pressure to drive the case back against the frame!

Seriously good service from the PitBull .45acp, straight sight, elevation reasonably ok for defensive work.

I don't see Charter as a "fine example of the best of American revolver manufacturers". I don't expect to enter and win any bullseye competition. Nor any beauty contest.

I do expect them to go bang every time. Both of mine did, and went back for "other issues". The 45 had a small "glitch" in the full cock notch where it would engage full cock and also "over cock" past full cock (and still fire). Hammer and trigger replaced. The 44 went back due to a poorly fitting trigger guard, which was replaced.

I did have an issue with the front sliding piece on the 45 too. Called up, they sent me a new spring. Called again - how do I get the blasted cap off? Nick told me to put some heat on it, since they were loktite'd in place. Fixed in a jiffy. I just don't have a real problem with Charter, or their service.

An interesting aside... the designer of the Charter Arms revolver was an ex Ruger employee. You can see a lot of "Security-Six" in the design. The Charter is sort of a proto, prehistoric, Security-Six of sorts. Solid frame, transfer bar, floating firing pin, the way the cylinder latch interacts with the internals.... very similar structures. Its like Bill R took that design and said... jeeze we gotta add some class to this piece of ... "semi spherical pre-digested equine excreta" (got it past the censors!), and so they did.
 
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I called CA about my Son of Sam Bulldog 44. An issue with the trigger. The CS guy new what model I was referring to and said if "Shelton CT" was on the barrel, parts and repair would always be free. As I recall, it just needed some springs.
It is my only Charter and a decent carry gun if you like to carry a revolver, I don't anymore. It would not be a good choice for high volume target shooting.
 
I have a Mag Pug, the worst investment I ever made. Shot 9" low at 25 feet, and after 250 rounds it decided not to ignite the primers in DA. I got a Wolff extra heavy mainspring and now it fails 30% or more of the time. Am just hoping for a local PD buy-back for cash, because I could not in good conscious ever sell it to anybody. They are a joke for anyone who shoots in any quantity.

@beag_nut Considering Wolff does not make an "extra heavy" mainspring for Charter Arms.... (ahem). The mechanism is simple and robust. When the hammer falls, it falls on a transfer bar, which can easily be seen in front of the hammer. Using some small tool to poke the mainspring, push it forward against the frame. Observe the firing pin. It should protrude from the recoil shield. There is a chance that dirt/gunk/crud has entered there, as the firing pin as built like a little button with nubs in front and back, and dirt between the "button" part and the frame could cause some issues. The retraction spring for the firing pin is almost flat. Dunno what they call that kind of spring winding type. It's made like an old style burner on a electric stove and domed just a little bit. The firing pin is easily taken out by removing the mainspring (which you can obviously do) and the hammer (one screw). The transfer bar will be out of the way, and the firing pin retaining pin can be cross driven from left to right (its splines are on the right). Tweezers help after cleaning when trying to get the firing pin back in place. You don't need to compress the spring when pushing the retaining pin back thru the hole. Pretty easy to do. Assuming nothing is broken, there is a slight chance of bad fitting of the way the hammer interacts with the transfer bar. I doubt you have a cylinder issue because it would have to move forward so far that it would drag on the barrel in order to try to create excessive space at the chamber end (causing light hits from inadequate firing pin protrusion to over come the excess space).

However, I strongly suspect that there is some untold bit of your experience. I mean, a simple phone call to CA will fix things if you don't want to tackle it. You didn't mention your ammunition. Reloads? Hows that primer seating? Was other "trigger work" performed that would result in premature release of the hammer in DA?

As far as shooting low, revolvers, especially short barrel revolvers, are subject to considerable variation in point of impact depending on the particular weight of bullet, and its velocity. Revolvers flip up a whole lot in recoil, which of course, changes the point of impact. For instance an alignment with the crotch area on a full size "bad guy" silhouette will give me point of impact at center of mass area - with my sightless BOOMER. Front sights are considerably taller than one might expect, pointing the muzzle down when aligned with the rear sight, in order to get a reasonable point of impact, but a lot depends on the load, the grip, the hand... you know the drill.... YMMV. The front sight would need to be trimmed over 1/8th inch (.135" to be exact) to raise the point of impact 9 inches at 25 feet. That strongly suggests no mechanical fault (nothing is "off" by 1/8 inch on the gun), and also strongly suggests the aforementioned items, or perhaps just trigger control or lack of proper sight alignment by the shooter.

To keep on topic of this thread, in my own personal experience, Charter has come a long way with their products, and is willing to stand behind them. Their warranty service has been good with me, and aparantly others as well. Every manufacturer out there in factoryland will screw up a warranty repair (jeeze Ruger, my single six barrel!) and given a chance will make it right.
 
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do the "dime test" open the cylinder, actuate the cylinder release so you can pull the trigger, hold the trigger back, look at the firing pin protruding passed the recoil shield, place a dime beside it, if the firing pin is not protruding higher than the dime, you need a new firing pin.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way or personally... just an observation
Wolff offers three spring grades for Charter - light, medium and heavy. But you said "extra heavy". I'm not one to split hairs, but I am one to try to decipher a person's feeling and attitude about a situation. I have observed that when someone, anyone, uses superlatives, it more often than not reveals underlying sentiments that are unresolved. Here's what I'm saying, suggesting even: Before you give up, give Charter (or any company that made some less than perfect product) a chance. If we were talking TVs, you might say this Sony is the biggest waste I've ever made, although many others have experienced otherwise. You might say, I sent it in, and it still doesn't work. Ok, well, maybe there's more than they realize, or maybe there's something situational, or maybe they just goofed. But, that old bugger, Mr. Frustration comes-a-calling and well, no good comes from that at all. Another case in point. My GF wanted a new vehicle. A smallish SUV. She had a Jeep that was beginning to need more than casual care, so... her livelihood depended on her wells....a new vehicle. We looked. She liked Ford - mostly because my Ford has over 300k miles, and runs pretty well yet at 20+ years old. She got a Ford. She has it two weeks - check engine comes on. I tell her, run it in to the dealer PRONTO... even though I pull the codes and they were nonsense as to any real issue. Dealer does their diagnostic, no problem, and resets the codes (which I could have done, buy ya know... gotta let the dealer see it). A month later. Check engine light. I pull the codes, take a picture of the code reader so its date stamped. She brings it in. No problem, reset codes. Two weeks later... same thing. But this time, the service manager calls her, she has him call me. He says, Ford released a firmware fix for errant check engine that occurs under conditions XYZ and they flashed the brain, ok to pick up, may run a little rough for first 15-20 miles as brain relearns that particular engine. Never did run rough. That was four years ago, and all is well with almost 80k on the odo. You see, some folks may have said, screw that, I'm selling this lump of offal. Some people may have called a lawyer, or tried a "lemon law" return. The thing is - a real company, known for good things, will stand behind their product, if you let them do so, but... an amazing thing.... you have to meet 'em in the middle and work with 'em to make that happen.

That's the end of my rant. Nothing personal, really, it applies to everyone who's thrown in the towel, when what they really needed to do was continue to dry off a little and get out of the stream of dripping water. In all my years, I know of only one company that could not fix a firearm, and admitted they had issues. That was HK who replaced my own P9s with a P7M13. Wish I still had that P7. Oh well. At least they stood behind the CUSTOMER and did the right thing. Charter has been known to replace guns "just because", so give 'em a go.
 
Normally not .. usually your 357 would be back ..
But they are so busy keeping up with orders ...
I ended up swapping my 44 Bulldog for a Taurus Tracker 44mag .. I just couldn’t warm up to it .. after all that stuff ... also I have a Boomer and a Pitbull in 40 S&W
I still like my Charters and after this crazy buying frenzy. Im planning on a few Charters to be added to my safe .... but I don’t see any gun purchases in the near future , until this frenzy is over and the stock improves
I just had an unexpected visit from the brown truck of joy! My .357 target bulldog is back, looks like quite an extensive list of parts were replaced/ adjusted. I can’t wait to go out in the woods and fire a couple dozen rounds! For now, I’ll give it a good wipe down.
 
I just had an unexpected visit from the brown truck of joy! My .357 target bulldog is back, looks like quite an extensive list of parts were replaced/ adjusted. I can’t wait to go out in the woods and fire a couple dozen rounds! For now, I’ll give it a good wipe down.

Wonderful news !!!
 
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