Peepsman
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Thank you Sir. Appreciate the info. Do you know if J frame grips fit with little or no modifications? Can't find Secret Service grips for my Off Duty except for Eagle, but have heard nothing but horror stories dealing with them.
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chicharrones
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Since the J-Frame has a wider grip frame and trigger guard than the Charter Arms, you may find the brass tabs of the T-Grip a little wide. You can bend the brass tabs slightly to fit better.
Peepsman
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Thank you again for your reply. I guess I wasn't clear with my question. Does J frame grips, not the T Grip, fit Charter Arm small frame revolvers?
chicharrones
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Gotcha now. I've never tried to do that. Maybe someone else here has?
I can tell you the cuts on the inside of the grips between the two gun's grips are different. See this j-frame link vs. this Charter Arms link.
Oldschool shooter
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I gave a Charter Bulldog to my friend as a backup when he graduated from the Police Academy in 1981. He's changed departments 4 times, wives twice, but still carries that Charter Bulldog today.
cnj
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VERY interested in the CA Professional in 32 H&R. Just waiting for them to be in stock somewhere at a somewhat reasonable price.
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Ted100
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It seems that most of the people that don't like charter arms are the one's who've only read about them or are basing opinions on price point as a quality indicator.
shoebox1.1
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The fit n finish is no colt or sw but the thing goes bang every time and carries perfect. Mines like an old friend. Goes w me everywhere
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Wow, those look great. Thanks for posting with a cornucopia of awesome revolvers!
Peepsman
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Around October of last year I purchased an "Off Duty". I really wanted to give CA a try, and even after looking over all of the nay-sayers, I purchased one. I really liked the fell and trigger pull, and couldn't wait to get it to the range. After 100 rounds, the cylinder release pin backed in, preventing the cylinder from opening. Opened it with a tie wrap around the cylinder rod and pulling from that direction. Backed out the screw and reset with with Loctite to no avail. Also, out of the 100 rounds, I had at least 15 FTF. Sent it back to CA 4 weeks ago, and have yet to hear much of anything. Calling tomorrow to see status. Personally, if they were willing to buy it back I'd be more than happy to give it to them. I really wanted it to work for me, as I'm a rooter for the underdog. We'll see when it gets back and I'll update.
Offhand McFlan
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I have a 6" Stratford Bulldog in 357 at home. It's an HD gun, basically. I used to carry it sometimes before I got my 4" Windicator. I never really found it that difficult to carry except in summer. I'll have to post a pic of it later when I get home. It was just a stroke of luck that I got a good Stratford model and not one of the later ones. I was actually shopping for a 44 special but I saw this one for $250 and just had to grab it instead.
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Dusting off an old thread. I have owned 2 Stratford era 3" Bulldog .44's and a Stratford era 2" Undercover 38 that I liked, even though I sold them off. Their finish was smooth, as were their actions.I ordered 2 new Police Undercover 38's with 3" barrels and a 4" Pathfinder Target 22lr. These guns were much rougher in finish and 2 had to go back to the factory for repairs even though they were new. My posts above picture the guns. I was soured about it and sold off all Charter Arms guns I had.
I really want to like them like I liked the Stratford era guns I had. I might try again in the future but decided to pull the trigger on a Stratford era (1986) 3" Undercover 38 I bought today on GB. I look forward to getting the old girl and giving her a whirl!
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Peepsman
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Got my Off Duty back from CA a few weeks ago. Finally got to the range. No fails to fire, and the cylinder worked every time. CA replaced the complete cylinder release, and the main spring. Polished the release pin on the cylinder, and reamed out the hammer pin hole so the pin would not bind. Have to admit I was originally very disappointed with the gun, but the CS won me over, and I have no problem trusting the Roscoe as my EDC.
OrangePwrx9
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Bought 2 CAs new in 2019 or 2020 (whenever they were giving away free hats with guns). One an Undercover, the other a Police Undercover. Both steel frame 38s.
The straight Undercover has SA & DA triggers as good as my best Smith. Might be due to the guys in the store dry snapping it a lot. The Police Undercover is very good SA but a bit heavy DA.
Both have been good with modest loads. Usually carry the Undercover.
The straight Undercover has SA & DA triggers as good as my best Smith. Might be due to the guys in the store dry snapping it a lot. The Police Undercover is very good SA but a bit heavy DA.
Both have been good with modest loads. Usually carry the Undercover.
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megatronrules
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Nice wheel gun. While I don't currently own a CA revolver I've owned my share over the years. Bulldogs like yours and a mag pug or three. All were good serviceable guns. I also had an older vintage undercover from the Stratford era,that I like as much as my older Smith model 60.
Col. Harrumph
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30 years gone (and I still miss it). Took it to my then-LGS who put it in his display case on consignment, where it sat for 2 or 3 years because of CA's corporate instability. Not all lost though. I picked up there a super nice 1950's vintage 5-inch M&P (pre-Model 10) for: $150.
(Stocks aren't correct but I don't care.)
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Two of the six Charter Arms revolvers I've owned were top notch guns right out of the box. Two should not have left the factory, and two needed minor work, both were on my dime. If you can at all continue to save up, buy a Smith and Wesson or Ruger.
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One thing that makes Charter unique ….
Lighter weight revolvers.. , in calibers other don’t offer in the size , weight or price range
And overall, I have had less problems with Charter revolvers vs Ruger … alot less and much better customer service with Charter also …
Charter offers 44 spl 9mm , 40 S&W ,357 mag ,
7 shot 32 H&R & 6 shot 38spl on a D size frame,
45acp ,45 Colt , 41 Mag & 6 shot 357 on a smaller frame than a K frame
6 shot sub 15oz 32 H&R ,
Stuff that others don’t offer …
JERRY
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Yes, they do offer some things others don't. however, I'd rather not have to gamble any more with them. They've become the try it before you buy it gun for me. them making it right the second time around is what they should do, they don't get a trophy for that. My time is valuable and I don't get it back nor am I compensated for having paid money for a gun that I cannot count on. I recently returned one that had problems right out of the box without a shot being fired. I didn't get compensated for my troubles. Regarding the other manufactures, I guess I don't have enough guns because the Rugers and S&Ws I've owned were gtg. I've sent in two S&Ws one for an inspection and one for a modification. Turn around time was fast like less than 10 business days and it was all on their dime.
All that said, the concept is very good. The execution is where they fail, and it seems to be in the quality control department lately.
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