Cheap Relable Rifles

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Not to hijack, but i think it's ok since the OP has not yet answered the all important "how cheap is cheap," and "what do you want to do with it?" questions; Why is it that people always recommend a lever action in either 30-30 (most often) or 45-70 (second place) when some one asks for a cheap hunting rifle? As I have priced them (at least here) lever actions cost quite a bit more than your average bolt action. I am told that in the 50's the opposite was true but we don't currently live in the 50's. Am I just living in some weird area where prices are inverted? I used to want a lever action 30-30 until I actually priced them.
 
Patience is the key word here courtgreene.
I snapped up a 1981 vintage Marlin 336 30-30 that was well over 90 per cent condition last year on GB for $275.00.
Deals are out there now more than it has been in quite some time mostly due to a rotten economy.
 
Handi Rifle. I have one in .444 and the bolt guns don't get to see the deer woods much anymore. The only drawback for most handi's is the trigger, it could be better. But they are tough, accurate, simple, reliable, and look pretty good imo.
 
Thanks heeler, you've pointed out a problem that I have. When I want something I get antsy and instead of waiting i tend to go to the next item on my list. I'm pretty sure that problem is a common one among people with our shared interests though.
1981 huh? good year! (when I was born)
ETA maybe not though, my brother was born the same year and he's sort of an ass.
 
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Not to hijack, but i think it's ok since the OP has not yet answered the all important "how cheap is cheap," and "what do you want to do with it?" questions; Why is it that people always recommend a lever action in either 30-30 (most often) or 45-70 (second place) when some one asks for a cheap hunting rifle? As I have priced them (at least here) lever actions cost quite a bit more than your average bolt action. I am told that in the 50's the opposite was true but we don't currently live in the 50's. Am I just living in some weird area where prices are inverted? I used to want a lever action 30-30 until I actually priced them.
See, the OP actually did answer the question on price and intended use in his post. He said $100- $350, to be used hunting deer. So those that offer up a 30-30 lever action as a choice probably gave a good suggestion.
 
I depends on where you are hunting and what you are hunting. Since you live in LA I assume you will be hunting locally. Find a used Winchester or Marlin 30-30 carbine as they are light and maneuverable. Despite some people's coments a .30-30 is an excelent deer gun. More deer have been taken with that round over the last century than any other and my brother's Winchester took an 850 lb. elk one shot kill with his shooting 170 gr. cor-lokt. If you aren't hunting in brush then the long and heavy Mosin Nagant 91/30 is a great gun. Power level is between a .308 and .30-06 and ammo is cheap.
 
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This is perhaps a bit of an off the wall suggestion, but, if the rifle is to be used as an "all around" rifle and hunting won't be it's main niche, well....

I bought my 11yo Godson a Hi Point 9mm 995 Carbine based on my brother's recommendation, about 9 months ago. (my bro runs a local range and has shot pretty much everything on the market). The 995's are dirt cheap- under $200 brand new, but they are also very reliable. They supposedly call it "the Cadillac of crap." LOL.

In testing the claim, while at the range i have given my godson all manner of +P, +P+ (which they are rated for) and standard pressure hollowpoint factory ammunition, from corbon powrball, corbon sierra, fed 9bpLE+P+, Federal HST, even max. pressure Buffalo bore 115gr JHPs, and the darned little carbine eats it all up and spits it out without a hiccup. Hundreds of rounds of the stuff over the course of the first month the kid owned his 995 (plus hundreds more FMJ, of course).

Has never jammed even a single time.

We only went to an indoor range, and the kid usually shoots it at 7 yds (he likes to shoot small groups), but at 7yds, using a cheap-o $50 red dot sight, the kid can put one bullet after another after another through the same ragged hole. My Godson has only been shooting for less than a year, he's a typical city/suburban kid.

Now while 7yd single hole accuracy doesn't sound impressive per se, FBI stats indicate virtually all civilian self defense shootings occur at a range of 7-10 feet.. At that range the 995 is a surgical instrument. So if the weapon is intended for any kind of a SHTF role, even as a backup...it's good to go for that role IMO.

I've only ever shot it on a 25yd range, but at 25yds and the red dot it still prints un-rested 1" to 1.5"-ish groups with a wide variety of ammo. So for east coast brush hunting, it should give plenty of accuracy to at least 100yds. (especially if you find a load your particular 995 really likes)

As far as the utility of the weapon, it is very light, has virtually no kick even with the hottest rounds (which are of course much more powerful with the rifle length barrel), and is actually shorter than an M-4 carbine even with the stock fully collapsed.

Here's a pic of my Godson's 995 next to my Bushmaster carbine just after i bought it (my Bushie has been extensively modified since the pic was taken :))

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It is a very small weapon, and for the $$$, it is about as good a weapon as one could ever possibly hope to find. I would definitely take my godson's 995 over an SKS(i have owned one, and my cousin, uncle and brother have also owned SKS's, and i've shot all of them).

If the weapon has a downside it is the fact that it's mags are proprietary (if only it used S&W or Glock or whatever name brand mags!), and they only hold 10rds. Promag makes 15rd mags, but you have to mess with the feed lips to get them to work right IME, and even then they'll only work with FMJs or Corbon Powrball. I figure out of a 995's longer barrel the nominal 1475fps 100gr powrball rounds are up in the 1600+ fps range.

I'd not want to take a hit from one of those.

Using heavier 147gr bonded core JHP's it should be acceptable for use on deer sized game as long as your shot placement is good and you're using an appropriate ammo type. A 9mm 147gr+P bonded core hollowpoint or JSP sizzling along somewhere around 1300+ fps out of the 995's long barrel should easily do the job on a white-tail, coyote, or what have you. Not the best choice, sure, but it would definitely get the job done.

The 995 is a truly remarkable weapon for as cheap as it is. And if you lay out another $60 you can get a stock that makes it look almost exactly like a Beretta Storm.

Normally i am very keen on top end gear, be it guns, cameras, or cars, but in this one case, the 955 is a cheap product that in my experience is perfectly serviceable.

If the weapon is to be used solely for hunting, you can buy a 20" semi-auto Beretta 1200 12 ga(benelli M1-super 90) police trade in for $300. With a rifled choke and sabot slugs, or the smooth bore and brenneke slugs, you can kill pretty much anything with that, but of course range will be limited.
 
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See, the OP actually did answer the question on price and intended use in his post. He said $100- $350, to be used hunting deer.

See, he (the OP) said that after he edited it. In the original post there was no talk of what he intended to hunt, nor what his definition of "cheap" was.
 
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The price and intent editing was there by the time I saw it. I understand how it's absence would mess with a recommendation.

And I am aware that some lever guns are going up in price - Win 94's especially since they closed their doors. Now it's a boutique import, but it doesn't mean Marlins or the Italian guns are dirt cheap. Bolt guns like the 98K's can beat the price and offer a lot of advantage right now.

I suspect that anyone with $350 in cash and a large pawn or gun store in 45 miles will be able to buy just about any rifle type in a few short hours, bolt, lever, semi auto or otherwise. Choose an appropriate caliber that's on the shelf, be careful about getting a clean bore and action in good shape, check the country of origin for the type of gun, and buy it. Every gun mentioned has bad examples or poor sources, just be careful about the specific one in hand. Odds are it's ok, just don't let holding it overcome common sense.

Even new, some guns don't work at all, a clean working used gun can be a much better value. YMMV.
 
GLENFIELD / MARLIN model 60: semi-auto 22 rifle
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STEVENS model 325 / SAVAGE model 340: bolt action 30-30 rifle

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GLENFIELD model 30 / MARLIN model 336: lever action 30-30 rifle
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These rifles are commonly found within the used-but-not-abused market. They're built to last a lifetime with only routine maintenance.

TR
 
They are all affordable on various budgets, and I can't think of any in production today that would be un-reliable.

Above "cheap" I value quality, simply because quality brings reliability, accuracy, etc. Look for a gun that you like and is a good value.

Used Tikka T3's come to mind.
 
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What are some good relable but also cheap rifles that you can use for hunting deer at price between 100 and 350 dollars

That’s much more specific. I say you don’t always get what you pay for but you always pay for what you get. That being said I would look at rifles at the upper end of your budget. A few years ago I picked up a 308 Weatherby sub moa in the classifieds below for right around $350.

There is a 30-30 down there now that could probably be had for that. http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=535397


At what ranges will you be hunting?
 
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America's No.1 choice for over 100 years now is a lever action in .30-30.

1) There are millions of them. 2) .30-30 is cheap, sold anywhere any ammo is sold. 3) It has the range and power for the most common hunting, out to 250m. 4) It's light, short, and handy, and is no less accurate than most milsurps, which all will shoot less than 1 Minute of Deer. 5) You can scope almost all of them, but iron sights will do the job, and did the first 75 years, to establish the .30-30 lever as the #1 deer gun.

This should have been the first posted recommendation.

I agree 100%. It's been a 3-4 years, but I got a used model 94 Winchester for ~$100. I added a Williams receiver sight and it will group really well at 100 yards. I reload my shells with 150 grain core-locked RP slugs. It's taken down every deer I've ever pointed it at.

Man am I ever out of touch with reality. I just looked over on GB & found LOTS of model 94s that DIDN'T sell at $300 because the reserve wasn't met. WHOA NELLIE. I need to put mine in a very secure vault!!
 
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Enfield Mk 4 #1 .303
Mauser 8mm
What ever you can find at your LGD in good shape.

New
995 TS (newer version with rails) than the one posted by valorius
Keltec sub 2000
 
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I own many of the rifles others have suggested, but hunt with a Marlin XLS. A 6.5 pound rifle compared to 9 pounds makes a lot of difference after several miles. For $250 and very accurate, who could ask for more?
 
Thanks OP for supplying new information... for a while there it made me look stupid but y'all came through and helped me out with your forum browsing expertise... Now that I know your price range I would like to suggest (this shouldn't be a surprise if you've seen my posts before) stevens 200.
Why? Cheap and shoot OK out of the box but they are similar to a 10/22 as you can modify the fool out of them if you want. So you get one rifle that will suffice but all kinds of potential when you eventually want to start playing gunsmith, which will probably happen because it happens to almost all of us.
And if you do NOT think lever actions have gone up recently, go price one. If you haven't done so in a while it will be an eye opening experience.
 
Mosin 91/30.

Illiterate Russian peasents couldn't hurt them, doubt a hunter can, unless their idea or "hunting" looks like Stalingrad.
+1 on that. For the $350 he could by one nice one and a life time supply of ammo, or 3 so=so ugly ones and 5 years worth of ammo. :)
 
What are some good relable but also cheap rifles that you can use for hunting deer at price between 100 and 350 dollars

Weatherby Vanguard. Choose your caliber.
 
Rifle for Under 100$.....Im with the 'M-91/30 with lotsa ammo' guys.

A rifle in the 100$- 350$ range.....Hmmmmmmm........

For 200-250$ you can get a MosinNagant in its ultimate and VERY Accurate configuration, The M-39.

You can buy one with an antique reciver, with a sharp new barrel from gunsnammo.com and have it deliver'd to your door, cutting out the expense to the middle man with the FFL.

With that M-39, you can also get a case of 800 rounds of Czeck light ball and a cleaning kit for another 100$ to 150$.
You will most likely be under 350$ and with plenty of "Get to know ya better" ammo and a riflemans rifle in your hands, you cant go wrong.

Could be most any Finn Mosin Nagant , though, thats been upgraded, some of the best are the M-27 and the M-28, or 28/30. All are renound for accuracy, with the M-28/30 being an Olympic rifle at one time.

Hand loading is easy and the components are redily available in that calaiber as well.

SAKO, Valmet (VTK) made some with a Tikka Barrel.....lotsa options for a good rifle.


Still, ya gotta have lots of ammo, no matter the weapon...lotta ammo...
 
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Mosin-Nagant M38, I think they go for around $80-$90 bucks.
I'll give you $90 for every one you will sell me. Not to pick on any one poster, but it's become obvious in this thread that a lot of people who responded haven't priced rifles lately. M38's are at least double that, I can't find a Marlin 336 for less than $400 locally and even the Savage 110's are pushing $300. This might be a good time for a lot of folks to take another look at their collections and their insurance levels (you DO have insurance on your babies, don't you?) and perhaps to make some adjustments if needed.
 
+1 for the enfield. about 6 months ago i bought a grenade launcher Lee Enfield for $100. The bore in it is mint (or close to it) and it shoots great. Perfect for deer or elk.
 
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