Ignition Override
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Let's be clear that this is not meant to be about steel-cased ammo (I'm quite familiar).It is Not about price, but about reliability/function in a clean, quality CZ compact handgun.
This is specifically about US-made, "Win. Forged", in the brown & black box sold by Academy and maybe WalMart. The only two prev. malfunctions in this nice CZ compact were with aluminum-cased 9mm from Academy. My CZ has been perfect with 400-500 rds. of lowest-cost brass-cased ammo having typically smooth metal surfaces on the cases and about 50-100 rds. Russian steel cased.
Two FTExtract jams today with this crappy Win. ammo in the first 20-30 rds. Showed both malfunctions to a tall safety staffer at Shoot Point Blank. Will not use it in my very new (almost nib) CZ Compact, or the collector Sig P228 ('94) I just bought. No fun checking barrel bores each time for a possible squib bullet stuck inside when there are certain malfunctions.
No more of this junk. Check YouTube to see the "scaly", rough-looking coating (?) on the cases. Have never seen anything like it, even on WW2 Brit. 303 or P.O.F. .303 etc. nor Russian and 'comblock' ammo.
A guy on YouTube pulled bullets out of a few rds. and measured the powder. Powder varied something like 44-54 grains in the same batch, or a similar variation.
Compared to this garbage, the lowest-quality Russian ammo we know as Tula is nice. If you are in Lakeland TN, send me a 'pm' message, meet me outside the Waffle Shop and I'll give you the remaining 50-80 rds. For Free.
Support US-made products.... if they earn it. Good luck.
"YouTube" "mpk1414" to check his function. And "GunTotinMinnesotan" finds the case diameters screwy. His PCR runs all Russian ammo types fine (thousands of rds.), but not this.
Glad I never took this stuff today for my first Action Pistol qual. (Tula worked fine)...the guy on the "Military Arms Channel" states that it has "choked" every, or nearly every handgun he has.
This is specifically about US-made, "Win. Forged", in the brown & black box sold by Academy and maybe WalMart. The only two prev. malfunctions in this nice CZ compact were with aluminum-cased 9mm from Academy. My CZ has been perfect with 400-500 rds. of lowest-cost brass-cased ammo having typically smooth metal surfaces on the cases and about 50-100 rds. Russian steel cased.
Two FTExtract jams today with this crappy Win. ammo in the first 20-30 rds. Showed both malfunctions to a tall safety staffer at Shoot Point Blank. Will not use it in my very new (almost nib) CZ Compact, or the collector Sig P228 ('94) I just bought. No fun checking barrel bores each time for a possible squib bullet stuck inside when there are certain malfunctions.
No more of this junk. Check YouTube to see the "scaly", rough-looking coating (?) on the cases. Have never seen anything like it, even on WW2 Brit. 303 or P.O.F. .303 etc. nor Russian and 'comblock' ammo.
A guy on YouTube pulled bullets out of a few rds. and measured the powder. Powder varied something like 44-54 grains in the same batch, or a similar variation.
Compared to this garbage, the lowest-quality Russian ammo we know as Tula is nice. If you are in Lakeland TN, send me a 'pm' message, meet me outside the Waffle Shop and I'll give you the remaining 50-80 rds. For Free.
Support US-made products.... if they earn it. Good luck.
"YouTube" "mpk1414" to check his function. And "GunTotinMinnesotan" finds the case diameters screwy. His PCR runs all Russian ammo types fine (thousands of rds.), but not this.
Glad I never took this stuff today for my first Action Pistol qual. (Tula worked fine)...the guy on the "Military Arms Channel" states that it has "choked" every, or nearly every handgun he has.
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