Cheapest 30 cal bullets?

[Noveldoc]

Try River View military pulls at http://www.rvow.com/Default.htm

They inspect and size after the pull to I have never had a feeding or accuracy problems in a Garand.

I assume they would work OK on deer. Worked just fine on Germans, Japanese and Koreans.

$55.00 per thousand, or 5.5 cents.

Tom

 

[falldowngoboom]

I've seen that site before, but when was the last time you ordered from them? I think I tried calling before and the number is disconnected... Sent an email weeks ago as well.

 

[snuffy]

I assume they would work OK on deer. Worked just fine on Germans, Japanese and Koreans.

Those pulled bullets are ball ammo bullets, as such, they're FMJ. Non expanding bullets are illegal for hunting in most states, as they should be. They would pass through without doing much damage, the deer might even survive!

Lead tipped expanding bullets are needed for humane kills on any animal.

 

[bullseye308]

Try River View military pulls at http://www.rvow.com/Default.htm $55.00 per thousand, or 5.5 cents

Try looking at posts 3, 5, & 7. RVOW is no longer reputable and for the most part out of the business. There was a time when they were the stuff, but it has passed.

 

[Dannix]

Shooting lead bullets in your 30 cal -- Perhaps I was given a false impression, but isn't there a problem with shooting both lead and jacketed?

Small amounts of powder in a rifle case -- can't overpressure become a concern if there is an excessive case void?

 

[qajaq59]

Shooting lead bullets in your 30 cal -- Perhaps I was given a false impression, but isn't there a problem with shooting both lead and jacketed?

Small amounts of powder in a rifle case -- can't overpressure become a concern if there is an excessive case void?

Cast bullets don't prevent you from using jacketed bullets. Simply clean your core, which you should do after shooting anyway, before switching bullets.

And I've shot thousands of cast in my 30-30 using Unique powder. The loads are right in the Lyman cast bullet manual. The only rub is if you got sloppy with the loading you could get a double charge. Always check the cases with a flash light to be sure they are all have the same amount of powder before you seat your bullets.

 

[Dannix]

But the lead doesn't devolve in ed's red, I assume, right? Or are you taking bronze brush?

I wasn't talking about about overpressure from overcharge, but overpressure from a really low undercharge. I forget where I read about this concern. I remember reading one 30-30 post where the guy was shooting lead ball, iirc 47gr. He specifically mentioned he individually loaded the rounds and kept them pointing up. Not sure why, perhaps just to keep the powder up close to the primer helping prevent a dud or a squib, but perhaps powder up front against the bullet could cause the case to take a beating before the bullet started moving?

 

[qajaq59]

Dannix, if you slug the barrel, size the bullets accordingly, and use the right alloy leading wont be a problem.

And having never tried to shoot round ball from my 30-30 I can't comment on that.
But Lyman #311041 shoot just fine out of my 30-30. And the #311413 do pretty good in my .308. It takes a bit longer for me to work up loads then with jackets, but that's ok. I have more time then money and I shoot a lot.
You might enjoy reading up on some of the casting over on one of the casting forums. It's no only cheap, it's quite interesting as well.

 

[TooTaxed]

For velocities on cast bullet loads, just check the manuals...I find I use the Lyman Manual a lot, which lists max velocities for my 170-gr RN #311291 as high as 2500 fps. I loaded mostly in the 2200-2400 fps range for .30-06, which made my M1 Garand function just fine. For 100-yd practice for the kids I loaded in the 1600 - 1800 fps range. There are loads provided as low as 1360-fps, but of course that isn't the bottom! I don't remember the velocity below which the M1 wouldn't function, but everything fires just fine in my '03 Springfield.

For shooting below 200-yd, why use jacketed bullets? Generally, the lower the velocity the more accurate/smaller groups, and cast works just fine.

 

[Squibster]

Try a Lee .311 round ball ahead of 8gr. of 2400. Kills paper tigers, squirrels, and most anything a lot deader than a 22 can.

Edit: Increase the charge of fast powder very carefully!!! This is a cheap, cheap, cheap way to blast or I should say "pop"

 

[NuJudge]

"What sort of speeds can you realistically push cast bullets, if you do use gas checks? 2000fps?"

If your bore is smooth, the bullet diameter fits the groove diameter (I like about .002 over groove diameter), the bullet design is compatible with the rifling and throat design, the bullet is hard enough, the muzzle is in good condition, & a good lubricant is used, I have had no difficulty reaching 2000 fps in a full-power military cartridge. With maybe a bit of experimenting, 2200fps.

 

[medalguy]

If you're looking for cheap bullets just to send downrange, there's a group buy going on 1919A4 that has pulled Brit Radway .308 FMJ bullets for about 11 cents each:

http://www.1919a4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31001

Best deal around at this time. Check it out!

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I've shot a 160gr 30-30 lead bullet w/GC just over 2100 fps without leading. As long as the lube is correct the GC will protect the bullet base enough to prevent leading the barrel.

 

[ol' scratch]

Great info. Thank you.