Child locks himself in gun vault
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How do you lock yourself in a safe? Mine doesn't lock by itself, and there is no access to the mechanism inside the door. Maybe he had help.
Fred West
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A group of boys were at Dick's Sporting Goods in The Gateway when three boys climbed inside a gun safe and another boy closed the door behind them, said Salt Lake Fire spokesman Scott Freitag.
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Fort Knox vault doors have release mechanisms on the inside, not sure about regular safes thuogh
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a1abdj
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Most gun safes are not anywhere near air tight, but 3 kids inside are consuming a lot of oxygen, especially if in panic mode. The electrical access hole, or bottom bolt holes make excellent places to insert an oxygen tube.
I did not read the article, but keep in mind that the fire department was probably trying not to injure the kids inside. There were plenty of faster options available to them, but those options may have been dangerous to the occupants.
I did not read the article, but keep in mind that the fire department was probably trying not to injure the kids inside. There were plenty of faster options available to them, but those options may have been dangerous to the occupants.
a1abdj, I figured as much that they didn't want to hurt the kids so they didn't grab a concrete saw and zip it open.
Figure that this would have been a perfect use of the jaws of life though. 4' pry bar to get it started and then use the hydraulic ram to pop open the door. I have to assume that the 40 minutes included setup time, etc. of the fire department.
Figure that this would have been a perfect use of the jaws of life though. 4' pry bar to get it started and then use the hydraulic ram to pop open the door. I have to assume that the 40 minutes included setup time, etc. of the fire department.
Drgong
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I think the kids need to wash cars or mow lawns and earn enough cash to pay for the safe that had to be ruined....
XDKingslayer
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This would have never happened with a trigger lock....
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
bnkrazy
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From the article:
So, is that the case with all RSCs sold from a big box store? If they indeed do all have a failsafe combination (that actually works), is it disabled when purchased? I've never heard of that.
So, is that the case with all RSCs sold from a big box store? If they indeed do all have a failsafe combination (that actually works), is it disabled when purchased? I've never heard of that.
M14/11B
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Keep the kids in line. I used to sell appliances--refrigerators and chest freezers and furniture. Kids would do unbelievable things to the merchandise and the parents wouldn't say a word. I had to ask a few people to mind their kids or please leave.
I'm with the blame the parents crowd.
Supervise.Your.Kids.
When I worked in retail (a speed shop, no less) people would turn kids loose in there to destroy whatever they wanted and not even hold them accountable if caught. Case in point: A collectible item in original box listed at $100. Kid tears the packaging open. When confronted by those of us who caught him he lies to us and his grandpa and grandpa just gives him the sad eyes of disappointment while walking out of the store. Granted that's more than some kids got, but it does little to stop the problem. Kids climb on rickety displays, pull things off of high shelves, run without looking while retail hooks are jutting out at eye level... Parents = oblivious.
If anything the kids are lucky somebody actually noticed they were locked in the RSC. Between the oblivious parents and the loud music at some gun shops it's a wonder they made it!
/rant
gp911
Supervise.Your.Kids.
When I worked in retail (a speed shop, no less) people would turn kids loose in there to destroy whatever they wanted and not even hold them accountable if caught. Case in point: A collectible item in original box listed at $100. Kid tears the packaging open. When confronted by those of us who caught him he lies to us and his grandpa and grandpa just gives him the sad eyes of disappointment while walking out of the store. Granted that's more than some kids got, but it does little to stop the problem. Kids climb on rickety displays, pull things off of high shelves, run without looking while retail hooks are jutting out at eye level... Parents = oblivious.
If anything the kids are lucky somebody actually noticed they were locked in the RSC. Between the oblivious parents and the loud music at some gun shops it's a wonder they made it!
/rant
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bogie
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Would have really been an easy problem to fix...
http://cgi.ebay.com/2002-Lincoln-SAE-400-Diesel-Welder-on-Trailer_W0QQitemZ250279930014QQihZ015QQcategoryZ113743QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/2002-Lincoln-SAE-400-Diesel-Welder-on-Trailer_W0QQitemZ250279930014QQihZ015QQcategoryZ113743QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I found a big rolling toolchest set at a store that was perfect, just what I was looking for. But the only one they had was the one on display on the floor.
I refused to buy it and made them order me a new one in the box, because it was OBVIOUS that kids had been pulling the drawers out and climbing on them, several were clearly bent and warped. This was a $1000 toolchest that was ruined and unsellable because of that.
I refused to buy it and made them order me a new one in the box, because it was OBVIOUS that kids had been pulling the drawers out and climbing on them, several were clearly bent and warped. This was a $1000 toolchest that was ruined and unsellable because of that.
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What happens when you have professional lawyers in the legislature making law? The party capable of paying the largest judgment is held responsible.
Like it or not, if the kids had been hurt, this case would be a winner for the parents.
It is totally foreseeable that kids would try this and it would be plenty easy for the store to prevent it. I agree the parents should be watching their children, but this is a case where people invited to a business property for the benefit of the store owner are generally entitled (under the law) to expect reasonable warnings and precautions by the owner. No jury would find leaving a safe open or easily locked to be a reasonable precaution.
If it happened to your kids, sure, you'd be mad at yourself, but you would still demand your pound of flesh.
Claude Clay
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good that the unsupervised children are ok. personal responsibility vrs a lawyer or 3. my bet is Dick's is already offering 'the injured' parties plenty so as to avoid court. better Dick's should present the 4 youths parents a bill for damages and lost business incurred because of their childrens actions. and the fire department needs to recoup its costs also.....
the madness must end
the madness must end
KBintheSLC
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I love Utah... the things folks do around here never cease to amaze me.
It would be better if the parents just went home and quietly "pounded their flesh".
It would be better if the parents just went home and quietly "pounded their flesh".
proud2deviate
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They need one of these;
I've never found a gun safe on display to be open anyway. Always irritated me because I couldn't look inside, but now I know why they're locked.
Someone could also smash their fingers pretty good with one too. That would REALLY suck for a child to get his/her hand smashed. Two or more kids around an open safe is a recipe for disaster.
Someone could also smash their fingers pretty good with one too. That would REALLY suck for a child to get his/her hand smashed. Two or more kids around an open safe is a recipe for disaster.
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