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Ops...I guess Texas isn't an 'industrialized country'.
It's not.
Ops...I guess Texas isn't an 'industrialized country'.
Ops...I guess Texas isn't an 'industrialized country'.
Deaf
You should come to uruguay down here. there are just 2 permits for everything, with the first permit you can have rifles up to 6.5mm, pistols up to 9mm, all calibers in shotguns and up to .44 mag in revolvers. With the second permit you can have everything included machine-guns which are completely legal, the only problem is that civilians can't import machine-guns, so it must have been in the army for you to buy it. If they catch you with a weapon that is not registered, doesnt matter if it's a machine gun, they give you six months to make it legal or give it to the authorities, and a 100 dollar fine.Another potential retirement country now discarded.
Wrong. Youre right with argentina and chile, but with uruguay youre wrong. I live in uruguay and It's easier than in the US. You can legally own anything.This is not surprising. The people of the "Southern Cone" (Chile, Argentina, Uruguay) consider themselves to be "Europeans" and they pattern their laws and culture after the European models.
If you're looking for a place with gun rights, look no farther than the good ole USA. As bad as things sometimes get here (think New York, New Jersey, California), they're still a lot better than most other places in the world. Yes, there are looser gun laws in places like Yemen or Somalia, but would you really like to live there?
Why would you want to live in a country where lifesaving medical treatment may not be available untill well after you're dead?
Alfon:You should come to uruguay down here. there are just 2 permits for everything, with the first permit you can have rifles up to 6.5mm, pistols up to 9mm, all calibers in shotguns and up to .44 mag in revolvers. With the second permit you can have everything included machine-guns which are completely legal, the only problem is that civilians can't import machine-guns, so it must have been in the army for you to buy it. If they catch you with a weapon that is not registered, doesnt matter if it's a machine gun, they give you six months to make it legal or give it to the authorities, and a 100 dollar fine.
Uruguay has the world's highest per capita rate of gun ownership, with one out of three Uruguayans owning a firearm, according to figures released Tuesday by the Institute of Legal and Social Studies (IELSUR), a non-governmental organization (NGO).
Up to December 2012, 584,112 guns were registered in Uruguay, and the number of unregistered firearms is expected to double, in a country of just 3.4 million people, the NGO's Luis Pedernera told a local radio station.
The rate is almost as much as in "countries such as Iraq, where there is a latent armed conflict," said Pedernera, adding the prevalence of guns puts Uruguay in the same position as "Colombia and Brazil, where firearms are highly used."
Funded by the European Union, the NGO unveiled a gun-control project this week, which is called "action for a democratic security policy; towards a national plan of civilian disarmament."
The released figures will help Uruguayans "discuss an issue of concern that is barely visible. This issue should really raise our concern," said Pedernera.
The NGO representative said Uruguay's gun-ownership laws "need to be aligned with international standards" to send the message that "firearms are not a right of the people, but a tool of the state for specific actions".
"We have to include the issue in the Uruguayan agenda, because this will have a positive effect on quality of life," he said.
Uruguay's Congress is currently debating a bill that would punish illegal possession of guns and trafficking in firearms.
Hi, I will answer all of your questions.Alfon:
Very interesting regarding the permit system in Uruguay. I few questions, if you please:
1. What are the fees for the two different permits?
2. Must one be a citizen, or can legal permanent residents apply?
3. Are the permits fairly easy to acquire, or must one be among the "favored ones" i.e., connected in some way?
4. Is there a database kept on all purchases?
5. Assuming one has one of the permits, how does a person go about actually purchasing a firearm?
If you have the time, I look forward to your answers, as I am very curious. On the surface, it does read as though it were easier than many states in the U.S.
Regards,
David
Wow (I don't know what else to say at the moment)..........Another thing, machineguns are very cheap here in uruguay, cheaper than most rifles because they don't have all the taxes and all that stuff, The most available machineguns are the ones that were in the army because only the army can import them. There are plenty of M3 submachine guns, steyr AUG's, AR-15's and AK-101's. I saw one M3 at 500 dollars.
in uruguay there may be more guns per capita than in the US, (not sure about this though)
Well, then the article is dead wrong, it starts with Uruguay has the highest per capita rate of gun ownershipNo. The US has by far the highest gun ownership rates of any developed nation at 89 firearms per 100 people. Second place goes to Serbia at 58 per 100. Uraguay comes in 9th at 31 per 100, 1/3 the US per capita rate, and about the same as Sweden, Germany, Austria, France, Norway, Iceland and Canada (all between 30-32 per 100 people).
lol you're right.No, the US has numbers per capita as most of us have dozens and dozens, whereas in Uruguay, more PEOPLE in the population own guns. Different stats and ways of looking at the numbers.
Yes, you can build firearms, but to make it legal the RNA (Registro Nacional de Armas) must inspect it and put a mark on it. Oh and there is no equivalent to your second amandment, in fact now it's easier than 10 years ago where you needed the second permit for a pistol over 7,65 mm.That sounds pretty nice about Uruguay.
Do you guys have an equivalent to our 2nd Amendment that specifically enumerates a right to bear arms or is it just the government hasn't bothered to do anything aout it for now?
Also, if you can't import new fall-autos. Can you build new ones yourself as long as they're not imported? Either from scratch or parts kits.