Chris Pratt labeled 'problematic' for hunting habits, 'eating farm-to-table lamb' in
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Tommygunn
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You'd have thought he'd cooked and eaten Raptor Blue ...
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JR24
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In a world of "free range grass fed organic locally grown" trends it always shocks me when folks object to hunting for meat.
It dont get any more free range grass fed organic than that. Usually locally grown too.
I've gone round with a few family members about it and they just dont make any sense, but go on paying extra for something easily harvested by hand.
On topic, Chris Pratt seems like a good dude.
It dont get any more free range grass fed organic than that. Usually locally grown too.
I've gone round with a few family members about it and they just dont make any sense, but go on paying extra for something easily harvested by hand.
On topic, Chris Pratt seems like a good dude.
Trey Veston
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Hunting is quickly becoming the hobby of the upper class due to costs.
I live in Washington state on the border of Idaho. My dad and brother live 15 miles away in Idaho and are avid hunters. I go with them and help stalk and then pack out the meat. Two years ago my dad got a moose and brother got an elk. Well over 900lbs of very good meat. Taking into consideration the cost of fuel, food for the week in the woods, licenses and tags, ammo, gear, etc. Hunting is very expensive any more. If I wanted to buy an out of state license and tag, I believe the last time I checked, it was over $600 for an elk. I can buy a lot of beef from a local locker for $600.
If you lack the skills and equipment to process the meat, then you're looking at another $2 a pound or so for processing.
My brother went to SE Montana for a Mule deer hunt this fall. Total cost was around $2k, not including the new wall tent and stove he bought. He ended up with around 90lbs of venison.
I admit that's an extreme example, but even just hunting in state and locally is still expensive. The hunting license and deer tag is $40. Cost of a tank of gas for the weekend is $60. Box of shells is $40. Groceries for the weekend in the woods is $100. Not to mention the bunches of gear that your always seem to need to replace every so often. Call it a yearly $100 and that is being extremely conservative and doesn't even cover the cost of a decent pair of boots or coat.
So that 90lbs of deer, after processing, costs you over $500. That's around $5.77 a pound for meat. And you still haven't factored in wear and tear on your vehicle, time off of work, etc.
Now if you live in the Midwest and can walk out on your porch and shoot a 250lb deer out of the cornfield, then process it yourself, then it's a whole different story. But out here hunting takes effort and planning and money.
JR24
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Here a license is like $24 and we process our own meat.
I guess $0.60 for the bullet.
I guess $0.60 for the bullet.
Trey Veston
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So the wrapping paper is free? The meat grinder was free? You don't have to drive anywhere to hunt? You don't wear clothes to hunt? No sighting in the rifle to verify it's still on? There are a ton of costs associated with hunting that experienced hunters take for granted. We've spent decades collecting firearms, gear, etc. so the cost seems negligible to us. But for the beginning hunter, it is extremely expensive to get into and those costs may not be recouped for years.
Pudge
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I don't know. A kid a church loves to shoot, and wanted to hunt, but his family doesn't do those things. All it cost him was to express his desire, a youth license ($12), and a pair of gloves. His family will be enjoying free range local venison. He's going to shoot and he's going to hunt as he matures. The costs can be looked at as givens to pursue his hobbies, the meat then would be inexpensive indeed, especially when deducting the costs of buying the food it replaces.
JR24
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I'm not going to argue the basic logistics of hunting penny by penny. Let's just say your experience and mine are wildly different and leave it at that.
This is closer to how I grew up. Anyone we know who might want to hunt gets plenty of support, from borrowed rifles and gear to shooting instruction and range time, usually on my (or someone else's) dime. It's worth it to get others into the sport and I always enjoy the time spent (and money well spent, IMO). Heck I bet my father in law has 30% of his deer rifles (and he has a ton of rifles) loaned out to someone or other any given deer season.
Same goes for other game. Guess it's just the culture I grew up in.
Basically I have my hobby budget, which includes hunting and if I'm not out in the woods on a weekend off, I'm probably at the range or reloading bench anyway. It's what I like to do. Travel to deer camp? Not any further than we'd go to visit family and friends anyway. So it's just a few normal fun weekends that I bring home bonus, wonderful, meat from.
But everyone is different.
JR24
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I go to their website occasionally to see what's on the antenna for the night (usually nothing worth watching) so there's that.
I haven't heard anyone talking about their site either. For me it was like they disappeared off the map only to reappear for this thread.
That's somewhat of a trend. A form of media does badly (who needs a guide to see what comes on in 3 days when you can rent anything you want in a couple secs?), tries to reinvent themselves and adds a slant in an attempt to appear edgy and then ends up doing even worse.
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I think Chris Pratt is one of the worst and least funny actors in Hollywood. He is one of the many reasons I did not and will not watch the Guardians of the Galaxy movies. But for this, he gets my respect.
chicharrones
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From when I was a kid up to my early 30s, I got to hunt on the cheap. I had family or friends with the land to hunt on. All I had to really come up with was licensing, gas, food, etc. I already had the rifle or shotgun and ammo, because I was going to shoot somewhere anyway. The meat went to the family or friends that had the land, and the family grandpa or grandma would cook it up for us later.
As time went by, family and friends slowly but surely sold off their land. Leases became too expensive to consider. The last time I got to hunt was because my neighbor was a sales rep for an oil & gas firm that was hosting a hunt and they had an extra "slot" to fill. Geez, that was the late '90s, I believe.
Out of everyone at the small company I work for now, most of us used to hunt up to the late 1990s. Now, only two still do. One is the top sales guy that has the coin to hunt, have a vacation home, and have season tickets for the local NFL team, etc. The other, still has family land a couple hours away. The rest of us had to let hunting go due to cost long ago. Texas doesn't have much public land to hunt on, so it is what it is.
There are a lot of fancy and expensive looking "ranches" throughout Texas now, which is an indicator of the cost of having country land these days. Same goes for lakefront property. Many lakes are lined with mini-mansions and not so mini mansions these days.
No grudges held by me. I'm glad I got to experience what I did when I did. Good times, good times.
chicharrones
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Strangely enough, I never liked him as an actor until Guardians of the Galaxy. I think he's perfect for the role.
JR24
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Conversely I thought he was the best part of Guardians, well maybe Rocket.
But I've enjoyed Pratt since Parks and Rec
Olon
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Wow I had no idea there was a normal movie star. He earned some points in my book. Sad that being normal makes you a standout in hollywood.
Gtscotty
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I feel like I'm missing something, isn't the TV Guide the little pamphlet that tells people who haven't heard about the internet what's coming on each channel? I haven't had cable in about a decade, didn't even know they had "articles" in them.
As for the cost of hunting, it is expensive, I don't try to justify it with savings on store bought meat. The truth is I love hunting, I'd hunt even if I had to give all the meat away, so eating elk/deer/antelope all year as a result of hunting is more or less a bonus for me.
As for the cost of hunting, it is expensive, I don't try to justify it with savings on store bought meat. The truth is I love hunting, I'd hunt even if I had to give all the meat away, so eating elk/deer/antelope all year as a result of hunting is more or less a bonus for me.
Not everyone has to pay dearly to hunt. Almost everyone who lives in the country has access and many hunt to put meat on the table. Plus you can join a hunting club instead of paying per hunt, lots cheaper. Lots of state lands you can hunt for free on.
mrmeval
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Based on graphiti from several cultures over the centuries, the bible, several other ancient texts and history books the rejoinder is "The more they stay the same." :-D
mrmeval
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Double post please excuse.
Stevie-Ray
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Well, I do none of that, but for those that do, I say good for them! Chris Pratt is one of my favorite actors. Christian, Republican, and this now does nothing but raise his stock in my regard, and attempt to lower the already bottomed-out in my eyes, media's.
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